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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/18/06 02:54 PM

I'm looking to catalogue all published references to Roy Walton's Card Warp effect.

I'm also looking for unpublished routines, variations and presentations that you would like to see published.

Send all info to jeffpiercemagic@aol.com

Thanks to all

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P.S. Yes, Roy Walton has given permission to this project.
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Postby John LeBlanc » 02/19/06 08:47 AM

Why not take responses here in the thread?

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Postby Guest » 02/19/06 09:53 AM

Warp Factor by Reg Coppicus contains many Card Warp ideas.

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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/19/06 12:15 PM

John, that's fine but some might like to keep their routines private for the moment. What ever works for everyone.

Thanks Dave, got that.

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Postby John LeBlanc » 02/19/06 12:27 PM

I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to identify routines (collect names) not entire routines. Sorry.

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Postby Leonard Hevia » 02/19/06 01:09 PM

Hi Jeff--off the top of my head:

1. "Dr. Strangetrick" from Michael Close's Workers books.
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Postby Leonard Hevia » 02/19/06 01:15 PM

2. Darwin Ortiz has an intersting idea in Darwin Ortiz at the Card Table.

3. James Swain also has interesting work in 21st Century Card Magic.

4. Bob McCallister's "Greenwarp" from The Collected Almanac.

I hope this helps. Sorry about the re-posting--I accidentally touched the "Add Reply" icon. :cool:
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Postby Ian Kendall » 02/19/06 02:03 PM

There's also StarWarp from Apcalypse, Hyper Warp from Enchantments (but I'm sure you have them.

Jay Sankey has a version in one of his early books that uses one card; Vinny Marino has a version on one of his DVDs.

If you are looking for presentations, Jamy Swiss wrote an article (I think it was a Shattering Illusions) about creating presentations, and listed three or four that his students have come up with.

There have been several discussions on fora over the years about prepping the effect from ungaffed cards; the two that spring to mind are on the Magic Cafe and Bunny - the search function will help here. (Roy's original handling for this was left out of the manusript - I think mine may be detailed somewhere).

There's Burger's jumbo card thing (also duplicating an original Walton moment).

Hope that helps,

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Postby Jacky Kahan » 02/19/06 03:26 PM

Apocalypse Vol 3 No 7 July 1980
Page 361 Star Warp (Howard Schwarzman): good card warp routine with dollar
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Quarks and Quirks
By Ben Harris
Year????
published by???
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The Linking Ring - Vol 72 No 10 Oct 1992
Page 87 Patter For McCallisters Card Warp (Ken McCreedy)
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Apocalypse Vol 16 No 09 Sep 1993
Page 2262 Quicker Warp: Bob Kohler: a quickie version of Card Warp
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Apocalypse Vol 8 No 6 June 1985
Page 1069 Quick Warp (Jay Marshall): a Roy Walton Cardward variation using a card and a bill (shorter than Starwarp)
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David Acer, Natural Selections Volume II
Copyright 1999
Page 114 The Card Warp Get-Ready
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Tannen's Magic Manuscript
Volume 9, Issue 5
March/April 1988
Business Card Warp - Card warp using business cards.
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Tannens Magic Manuscript
Volume 8 Issue 1
July/August 1986
Card Warp Move by Torkova - a convincer for card warp
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Ortiz, Darwin: Darwin Ortiz At the Card Table
Published By Richard Kaufman and Alan Greenberg
Copyright 1988 by Darwin Ortiz
PAge 134 The Card Warp Deck
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Jim Swain, 21st Century Card Magic
Copyright 1999
Page 80 Card Warp Display
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Burger, Eugene: The Experience of Magic (AAR)
Copyright 1989 by Richard Kaufman and Eugene Burger
Page 91 The Inquisition. A fabulous and unique presentation of Card Warp
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Fraps, Thomas, et.al.: The Book or Don't Forget to Point!
by The Flicking Fingers: Thomas Fraps, Helge Thun, and Jorg Willich
Mismade-Warp (Rainer Pfeiffer): Card Warp/Greenwarp ending where the dollar changes into a mis-made bill
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Sisti, Jim (editor): The Magic Menu
(c)2001 Jim Sisti, Published by L&L Publishing
Page 423 The Card Warp Get Read (David Acer): a cleaner method to start Card Warp
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Kaufman, Richard: The Collected Almanac
(c) 1982-1992 by Richard Kaufman
Page 113 Greenwarp (Bob McAllister): Card Warp with a dollar
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Harris, Paul: Art of Astonishment, Volume 3
Page 99 Improvised Screwed Deck (revised) (Close-Up Kinda Guy). A deck is twisted so that one end is face up and one is face down and then restored. Sort of a full deck Card Warp...

Hope this helps....
Info came from www.magicbooks.be :)

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Postby Asser Andersen » 02/19/06 04:09 PM

In Ultra Cervon (Cervon & Minch, L&L 1990) p. 77-87 (Warped) and p.88-94 (Warp II).
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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/19/06 06:34 PM

Originally posted by John LeBlanc:
I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to identify routines (collect names) not entire routines. Sorry.

John
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John,
I'm actually doing both. I'm looking for both published and unpublished routines for possible inclusion in a book on Card Warp that is approved by Roy Walton.

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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/19/06 06:43 PM

Thank you to all who have contributed so far. There are a few I was not aware of.

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Postby Guest » 02/19/06 09:08 PM

my copy of the Quarks & Quirks by Ben Harris was published by Media T Marketing Pty LTD in 2001.
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Postby Guest » 02/19/06 10:06 PM

I was to a lecture by torkova and he has a good handeling of the ending.
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Postby Yves Tourigny » 02/21/06 06:08 AM

Alain Nu has a handling finale for Card Warp where he changes each half of the card into a card cube using origami technique. I think it was published in Magic many years ago... Don't know if it is helpful to you.

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 02/21/06 06:19 AM

Originally posted by Jeff Pierce:
I'm looking to catalogue all published references to Roy Walton's Card Warp effect.

I'm also looking for unpublished routines, variations and presentations that you would like to see published.

...
There is a marketed trick, "Ultimate Card Warp" where you get cards to change places. I'm working on something like that where you don't have to have extremely similar cards and appear to be working from a deck... the goal being that the climax of the trick is the two cards, folded in different directions change places during a push through.
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Postby Edwin Corrie » 02/21/06 10:39 AM

Don England has a magician-fooler version in his book "TKOs" (1981) in which the card is handed out at the end (no tears - a completely different method). His more recent book "Paradox" also has a couple of ideas, one with a card reversing as it passes through a deck (like a Trost tunnel effect) that is similar to a trick by Harry Franke in Lewis Ganson's "A Magician Explains" (1955) - which in turn is similar to a Charles Jordan idea (see Diabolical Reversed Card in the Dover collection of Jordan material by Karl Fulves).

There is a Card-Warp-type effect by Ken Kuroki in "5 Times 5 Japan", in which a dollar bill seems to shrink as it is pushed through another folded one.

Bob McAllister had an effect in Apocalypse (November 1985) with a folded card that turns inside out, and Ken Krenzel's version is in the January 1987 issue. Jay Sankey published something similar in "100% Sankey".

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Postby Joe Pecore » 02/21/06 02:24 PM

There was something called "Warp Factor" being distributed on the internet quite a few years ago. It contained numerous ideas for Card Warp patter. I'll see if I can find more info if you need it.
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Postby Guest » 02/21/06 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Joe Pecore:
There was something called "Warp Factor" being distributed on the internet quite a few years ago.
That's the item that I mentioned in my earlier post in this thread. I have the document, and I have the e-address of the person who produced it. (Dunno if that e-address is still current, though.)

Anyway, Jeff said that he already has Warp Factor.

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 02/21/06 03:43 PM

Does the Cross Twist and similar belong in this catalog? Seems close if you remove the fold factor.
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Postby Edwin Corrie » 02/26/06 12:12 PM

Just remembered a version by Jean-Jacques Sanvert which was published in a set of lecture notes in French from 1995. It's called "Au del de la quatrime dimension" (Beyond the Fourth Dimension), and uses a card and a bill. In the notes he says he's been using it for at least ten years (i.e. since 1985).

I think Mark Leveridge in the UK used to sell something with a card that turned over in an envelope, although it doesn't seem to be in his current catalogue ( http://www.markleveridge.co.uk/ ).
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Postby Evan Shuster » 02/26/06 12:50 PM

Along those lines, I believe Jeff Busby had a version called "Into the 4th Dimension and Beyond."
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Postby Jim Maloney_dup1 » 02/26/06 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Evan Shuster:
Along those lines, I believe Jeff Busby had a version called "Into the 4th Dimension and Beyond."
Just as a clarification -- Busby's effect was not really a "version". His was the original idea that inspired Roy Walton to create "Card Warp".

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Postby Evan Shuster » 02/27/06 12:03 PM

Thanks Jim, for the history. I find it all the more interesting now. Sounds like this effect should definitely have a place in the book.
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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/27/06 05:17 PM

thanks to all so far. Here's a good question, who came up with the idea to stop the card half way through and rip it down the center to display half up and half down?

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 02/27/06 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Jeff Pierce:
thanks to all so far. Here's a good question, who came up with the idea to stop the card half way through and rip it down the center to display half up and half down?

Jeff Pierce
On a related note, has anyone used the Ken Krenzel gaff set from Apocalypse to do the tear and show the cards half and half?

Hmmm?

If not, I claim it. :D
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Postby Ian Kendall » 02/28/06 04:58 AM

Jeff,

I've a feeling that's in the original manuscript from Davenports. If not, I remember discussing it with Roy on several occasions.

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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/28/06 06:53 AM

Ian, I spoke with Roy yesterday and it was not part of his original manuscript. He says that this altrernative ending was added by Davenports sometime latter. So this brings up what
I think this is a very important question of credit. I feel this ending is probably the single most important addition to Card Warp so I need to find out who get's credit.

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Postby Ian Kendall » 02/28/06 07:26 AM

Fair enough - I had the Davenport's manuscript but never really used the ending. I still prefer my own which leaves everything in the spectator's hand.

Since it came from Davenport's in the sixties, have you been in touch with Pat Page?

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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/28/06 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Ian Kendall:
Fair enough - I had the Davenport's manuscript but never really used the ending. I still prefer my own which leaves everything in the spectator's hand.

Since it came from Davenport's in the sixties, have you been in touch with Pat Page?

Take care, Ian
Ian, you mean the seventies, don't you? Feel free to send you routine along for inclusion in my book and no I have not spoken with Pat Page but will as soon as I can get a email.

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Postby Ian Kendall » 02/28/06 08:30 AM

Could be - part of me thought Card Warp came out in 68? I'm not sure Pat has email, but I have to speak to him in the next couple of days. I'll try to remember to ask him.

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Postby pduffie » 02/28/06 08:45 AM

Andi Gladwin found the following in Abracadabra magazine:

"Card Warp hit the magical market for the first time at the IBM Convention on the 19th September, 1973. We [Davenports] took 220 (yes, two hundred and twenty) with us and sold them all in one day."

I should add to this, that Patrick Page used jumbo playing cards for his dealer-demonstrations at that convention to make the effect visible to the large crowds.
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Postby Ian Kendall » 02/28/06 08:52 AM

What's five years between friends/enemies/casual aquaintances?

Roy's got a great story about Eugene Burger and jumbo cards...

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Postby Brad Jeffers » 02/28/06 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Jeff Pierce:
Here's a good question, who came up with the idea to stop the card half way through and rip it down the center to display half up and half down?
Probably many people, but Derek Dingle did this on television in the mid to late 70's.
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Postby Ryan Matney » 02/28/06 03:49 PM

Don't forget the Larry Jennings freebie from www.larryjennings.com
It's card warp related.
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Postby Bob Farmer » 02/28/06 05:45 PM

Here's my short list:

The Contortionist by Michael Giles. A really cool version of Card Warp with some astonishing visual moments that top the original. I've seen this performed and asked whose it was, but I have no other details.

Hyper-Warp, pp. 82-97 in Wesley James book, Enchantments (has a great ending).

Quicker Warp by Bob Kohler Apocalypse 2262-2263.

Star Warp Howie Schwarzman Apocalypse 361-364.

Greenwarp by Bob McAllister Richard's Almanac pp. 113-115.

Billtration by Tony Miller (related method) Richard's Almanac 117-119.

Card Warped Don England TKOs p. 29.

Dr. Strangetrick by Mike Close in one of the Workers books (not to hand).
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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 02/28/06 08:23 PM

Does anyone have The Contortionist by Michael Giles that can give me info on this. I hear it was on the market for only a short time then taken off.

What gives?

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Postby David Acer » 02/28/06 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Ian Kendall:
Jay Sankey has a version in one of his early books that uses one card
That would be the opening routine in 100% Sankey, called "Definitely Warped." And in the category of yet-to-be-published versions, Tyler Wilson is about to unleash his handling on the nine people still buying books in his forthcoming compendium, Dominatricks, featuring an eye-popping phase in which a quarter-size notch is torn out of the folded edge of the tunnel card, then the other (lengthwise) folded card is passed through the tunnel, but somehow (and impossibly), it remains unseen through the notch!
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Postby John Pezzullo » 02/28/06 10:39 PM

Jeff Busby wrote the following in EPOPTICA (Number 6 - August 1984):

In 1970, while still in my mid-teens, I purchased a Japanese book issued by the Tenkai Prize Committee called MASAO ATSUKAWA'S CREATIVE WORKS IN MAGIC. The book dealt with original effects by Atsukawa and a great deal of the material utilized the shape of objects to create some unusual magic - topological magic, if you will.

I became interested in one of Atsukawa's effects called 'Three Quarter Card'. The gaff is basically a card with one quarter missing, that allows a penetration effect to take place. The problem was that the cards could not be shown cleanly. In playing around with the Atsukawa effect, I hit upon the idea of replacing the missing quarter with just a slit running from one edge of the card to the centerpoint. This allowed me to perform all sorts of unique penetration effects, but in a much cleaner and more open fashion. Still playing with the single slit card, I eventually came up with the E-fold idea which led ultimately to the effect of a single card turning inside out - an effect which was finally written up in November of 1972 and published in January 1973 as INTO THE FOURTH DIMENSION...AND BEYOND. I think it fairly well known that this was the effect that led to Roy Walton's variant handling that was issued (and I might add, initially without permission, but belatedly given after the effect was on the market) as CARD WARP. This took the magic world by storm.
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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 03/01/06 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Ian Kendall:
Could be - part of me thought Card Warp came out in 68? I'm not sure Pat has email, but I have to speak to him in the next couple of days. I'll try to remember to ask him.

Take care, Ian
Ian, please speak wit hMr. Page and ask hime if he came up with the ending for Card Warp. LMK

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