Clippo, origins, variations etc...

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Postby C. Hampton » 08/25/03 04:15 PM

I will be preparing an articule soon on clippo, and was wondering if anyone can help as giving me references for history, originators, variations, and even copyright.

Your help and wisdom is always appreciated guys.

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Postby Guest » 08/25/03 05:24 PM

Clippo is a great trick credited to Will De Seive.

When I was a kid, my father bought me a variation of Clippo called 'Clipper.' It was put out by Professor George "Meet Me Face To Face" Miles here in New York City. It was around 1965 and I still have the directions and nice illustrated envelope.

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Postby C. Hampton » 08/26/03 06:40 PM

Thanks Dough,

I cannot believe that Mr Biro is not jumping on this one.

Anyone else???
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Postby Max Maven » 08/27/03 12:27 PM

"Clippo" is often credited to Will de Seive, whose version was marketed in 1937 to great success. However, the original version was J. J. Kolar's "Magic Shears," marketed in 1929.
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Postby Dale Shrimpton » 08/29/03 04:29 AM

Hi Max.

iTS Funny, but this subject has come up
on another web site .
The references i have come across, to Kolar, suggest that the clippo effect was only a part of a routine using " magic scissors".
There seems to be a lot of mentions of the string and straw trick,so loved by exposure shows, and kids books.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Postby Edwin Corrie » 08/29/03 07:36 AM

On the subject of variations, I came across a secret use of the Clippo principle in a diabolically clever fake envelope devised by Ted Lesley and explained in his book Paramiracles.
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Postby Max Maven » 08/29/03 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Dale Shrimpton:
There seems to be a lot of mentions of the string and straw trick,so loved by exposure shows, and kids books.
What are your thoughts on this?
Not sure I understand your question. The string-and-straw trick was also invented by J. J. Kolar. If your question is whether that was part of the "Magic Shears" routine, the answer is no, it was sold as a separate item.
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Postby Pete McCabe » 08/29/03 02:58 PM

In the Jan 2003 issue of Magic, Jim Steinmeyer published his presentation for the Clippo trick.

The idea is he's going to present the Cut and Restored Rope Trick, which he bought from the local magic shop. He opens an envelope and pulls out a piece of rope and... a long, narrow sheet of instructions.

As he reads the instructions, some of them don't seem necessary, so he cuts them out of the middle. But the paper restores itself. The magician doesn't notice, and keeps on cutting instructions out of the paper, which keeps restoring itself.

For years I've been looking for a good effect whose presentation can be built around reading the instructions. This is a terrific example. (So is Simon Aaronson's Side Swiped).

BTW Jim Steinmeyer says that after Kolar invented the basic principle (as Max Maven has indicated), it was Harlan Tarbell who began performing it with columns of newspaper, which is the version popularized by Will DeSiever and marketed as Clippo.

I can't help but wonder if the newspaper version could be combined with the old bit of moving a scissors along a strip of newsprint and cutting where the audience tells you to stop, then revealing that you had predicted this exact spot. Maybe you try to do this trick, but the paper doesn't fall (clippo), then finally you throw away the clippo sheet and bring out another.

The comedy of the first bit would be a nice setup for the real magic of the prediction. And you'd throw away the gaffed clippo sheet, being left with only the ungaffed prediction paper.
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Postby Frank Yuen » 08/29/03 03:33 PM

I've seen Clippo variations done with a drawing of a fish and with a weiner dog but unfotunately can't remember who marketed them or what they were called. A variation that I can reference is the double bill restoration found in the Mark Wilson course.

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Postby Guest » 08/29/03 04:56 PM

Richard Himber (of Himber wallet fame) had a routine using two single bills in an envelope. The bills are prepared ala 'Clippo' for a very interesting routine and presentation. It was published in Genii magazine in the early to mid sixties. I have a routine published in Lorayne's Apocalypse that was fashioned after this routine and rightfully credited to Himber.
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Postby C. Hampton » 08/31/03 03:24 PM

I want to apologize for not replying before, but I've been without a computer for a few days.
Thanks everyone that gave me pointers, not only here but via e-mail, you guys have been very helpful.

I found the fish variation mentioned by Mr Yuen in a booklet called Smart Stuff by George McAthy's and the presentation is called Fish Clippo.

I was not aware of the Steinmeyer presentation, it sounds very interesting, I will have to research it.

Thanks again
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Postby Jack Poulter » 09/11/03 11:55 AM

Some years ago, in Genii, the late Don Lawton offered his "scripts" on Clippo. I don't know if they are still available from his estate.

In addition,"The Whole Art of Clippo Revealed...and More!" by Ronald J. Dayton is published by Hades Publications. This contains a number of variations using the Clippo principle.

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Postby themaestro » 09/11/03 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Pete McCabe:
I can't help but wonder if the newspaper version could be combined with the old bit of moving a scissors along a strip of newsprint and cutting where the audience tells you to stop, then revealing that you had predicted this exact spot.
T.A. Waters has an effect called "Clippoline" in MIND MYTH & MAGIC which is a neat newspaper clipping prediction that uses CLippo as the method.

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Postby Guest » 09/11/03 08:13 PM

Dominic Paolino (P.Cinimod) put out a version called Snip It. The instruction sheet has a copyright date of 1978.

Some points made in the instructions were:

Fold the paper backwards and cut, showing two seperate pieces, then cut again, causing the halves to seal; make an angled cut, showing the paper restored at an angle, then re-cut to make it straight again; use a spectator in a you-do-as-I-do routine where the spectator fails and you succeed.

He also suggests dull scissors work best, or scissors with a slight play in the blades. --Asrah
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:38 PM

Carlos... OK, for you I jump in. :cool:

However... I don't know Jack about Clippo. I never tried it, I never liked it and I will probably never do it. :p

But... that doesn't mean it isn't great. :genii:
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:39 PM

I do like, and use, Fresh Fish Sold Here Today.
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:40 PM

I do like Fresh Fish Sold Here
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:41 PM

I do like Fresh Fish Sold
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:41 PM

I do like Fresh Fish
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:42 PM

I do like Fresh Fish Sold Here Today
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:42 PM

I do like Fish
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Postby Pete Biro » 09/12/03 11:43 PM

Perhaps I have too much free time :confused: :whack: :sleep:
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Postby Guest » 09/13/03 03:18 AM

Hi Carlos,

May be you already know about the "CLIPPO" chapter in Gene Anderson and Frances Marshall's book "Newspaper Magic" including historical references, details on how to prepare it and routines from Ed Marlo(2), Bert Douglas, George McAthy, Sid Fleishman&Bob Gunther.

Another Clippo use, from Gene Anderson's act, to obtain the sequence HELL>O HELL> HELLO with cut out letters is published in his lecture notes "The Partial Time Pro". In this case the clippo principle is used only once combined with fair and fake cut out letters with a very interesting result.

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 09/13/03 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Pete Biro:
Perhaps I have too much free time :confused:
Pete, till you wrote that post I had no respect for that 'fresh fish' torn and restored paper trick.

Your idea of combining clipo and that paper is wonderful! Thanks for sharing :cool:
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Postby Michael Jay » 09/14/03 08:45 AM

As Dale has mentioned above, it is coincidental how this topic came up, as I am also writing an article on "Clippo" to add to my on-line library. Presently, I'd like to thank everyone for the excellent information and, if there is anyone else who has some historical notes on this effect, I'm all ears!

Adding my own, limited knowledge to this thread, I'd like to note that another effect that is based on the Clippo principle can be found in Mark Wilson's Encyclopedia. The effect is done with two 1 dollar bills, cutting them through the middle and they instantly restore, simultaneously. This use of the Clippo principle is called "Inflation," and credited to Peter Pit.

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