if the pass were invented today ...
if the pass were invented today ...
it would have a ridiculous name like "the hugard & braue super top secret ultimate mega pass"
what's with every new idea (always rehashed from year's ago but forgotten by today's young con artists) branding the simplest things with their name and some ridiculously worded catch phrase?
looking at my copy of "expert card technique" i can understand how in 1944 there may not have been a collection of sleight of hand techniques, but after 65 plus years, every little shift, switch, lift, and pass, is brought to the attention of all the young and naive magicians who are interested in fooling their parents and friends, and sold to them in an overpriced and under-packaged online pdf or badly produced dvd.
what are your thoughts?
what's with every new idea (always rehashed from year's ago but forgotten by today's young con artists) branding the simplest things with their name and some ridiculously worded catch phrase?
looking at my copy of "expert card technique" i can understand how in 1944 there may not have been a collection of sleight of hand techniques, but after 65 plus years, every little shift, switch, lift, and pass, is brought to the attention of all the young and naive magicians who are interested in fooling their parents and friends, and sold to them in an overpriced and under-packaged online pdf or badly produced dvd.
what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts?
The Herrmann Pass
The Zingone Spread Control
The Lorayne Force
The Tenkai Palm
Attaching names to sleights has been going on for over 100 years.
The Herrmann Pass
The Zingone Spread Control
The Lorayne Force
The Tenkai Palm
Attaching names to sleights has been going on for over 100 years.
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As for the ridiculous catch phrases; people get caught by them. Like "Mansilla's Eureka ACAAN".
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The practice of combining one's name and a ridiculously worded catch phrase to a product isn't new either. Consider, for example, the snake oil salesmen as far back as the early 1700s who trotted out products bearing names like Professor Peterson's Patented All-in-One Cure-All Elixir and Health Enhancer Oil.
"No thing under the sun is new."?
The more things change the more they stay the same?
SSDD?!
"No thing under the sun is new."?
The more things change the more they stay the same?
SSDD?!
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It happens in other fields too. Medicine in particular, given the names of horrific diseases and syndromes.
Just like today, people wanted to be famous no matter what.
Just like today, people wanted to be famous no matter what.
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Richard Kaufman wrote:Attaching names to sleights has been going on for over 100 years.
My goal is to invent a steal that would be named after me.
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So Mike, would the move be called "Remington Steele" (steal), just like the 80's program? ;)
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The pass is likely discovered every day. But that discovery would not be a significant novel addition to our our working body of knowledge in this craft.
Nothing like being set into print as a copyist or person who publishes other people's work without permission... or worse, seeks attention for reinventing the wheel.
How about an ebook on how to suck eggs too?
erdnasephile wrote:It happens in other fields too. Medicine in particular, given the names of horrific diseases and syndromes.
Just like today, people wanted to be famous no matter what.
Nothing like being set into print as a copyist or person who publishes other people's work without permission... or worse, seeks attention for reinventing the wheel.
How about an ebook on how to suck eggs too?
Re: if the pass were invented today ...
]luigimar wrote:So Mike, would the move be called "Remington Steele" (steal), just like the 80's program? ;)
luigimar
I spat out coffee laughing at that. You own me a new keyboard.
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"Remington Steele"
brilliant
brilliant
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Not sure how many recall the nature of that character on the show, a handsome face to front for a clever female detective.
Mundus vult decipi -per Caleb Carr's story Killing Time
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Nice one, Mike. But have you considered developing a battery powered electric deck? You could call it the Remington Cordless.
Too obscure?
Too obscure?
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Secret, strong enough for a man but built for a magician?
Mundus vult decipi -per Caleb Carr's story Killing Time
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Or maybe a self-resetting move that's called the Remington Repeater?
Or perhaps a new turnover shift called the Remington Revolver?
JMD
Or perhaps a new turnover shift called the Remington Revolver?
JMD
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Oh, oh, wait...a two handed fire production.
Remington Firearms.
Are you groaning yet?
JMD
Remington Firearms.
Are you groaning yet?
JMD
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Pshaw! The Winchester Mystery Pass is much better than the Remington Steal.
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Just wait until the Kendall Kindle book test comes out...
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i think he was actually getting at the bad-ass modifiers (super, ultra, etc.) and other silly embellishments rather than people attaching their names to moves. even so, things like the overheated "strike" modifier was applied to some pretty pedestrian moves long ago, and i never found marlo's penchant for attaching "action" compelling.
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Crepuscular Cineaste Coughing Kaufman Catches Ultra-Devious Criminal Creature Buff Jesby while Creeping C*nt Serry Jadotits Jaunts Away in a Gesture of Slippery Stupendous [censored].
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I humbly bow to your obviously superior semi-alliterative adjective slinging adeptnitude, Eminence.
"Crepuscular"? Now that's one I HAVE to add to my vernacular vocabulary.
Thanx!!
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"Crepuscular"? Now that's one I HAVE to add to my vernacular vocabulary.
Thanx!!
Is PayPal okay for the secret download site?
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(In my best Elvis impression)
Thankyouverymuch.
My work here is done.
JMD
Thankyouverymuch.
My work here is done.
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Wow! I believe that's the first time I've heard (seen) the word crepuscular used outside of Wallace Steven's The Emperor of Ice Cream. Kudos!
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Crepuscular? as in those movies where the pre-adults have tweezed eyebrows and "not Delen" is out to control two races instead of just becoming the queen of the transition between the old ones (membari in B5 - vampires/warewolves in "Twilight")... in a word - ewww. The early bird can keep that word.
Though Ed Marlo as The Vampire Lestat might be kinda fun.
Though Ed Marlo as The Vampire Lestat might be kinda fun.
Mundus vult decipi -per Caleb Carr's story Killing Time
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Marlo would be more like Viktor in the Underworld films.
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"Viktor, the cruel vampire king who has enslaved them"
You make reference of this Viktor?
You make reference of this Viktor?
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\Philippe Billot wrote:"Viktor, the cruel vampire king who has enslaved them"
You make reference of this Viktor?
The bit about writing history ...