Sources for Mental Epic routines

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Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » April 23rd, 2009, 9:41 am

I'm looking for all sources of Mental Epic routines that don't use the six panel board. I'd prefer routines that play close-up but any references will do.

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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Jonathan Townsend » April 23rd, 2009, 10:41 am

What's the name of the six panel board where you use one-ahead and one of the panel's slides?
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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Jonathan Townsend » April 23rd, 2009, 12:17 pm

Thanks, so it's the name of Hen Fetch's prop.

The madlib prediction is called "confabulation" or is that the name of the wallet/notepad combo?

Kinda tough to keep the name of the prop vs the name of the plot distinctions straight.
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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Dick Christian » April 23rd, 2009, 3:10 pm

Jon,

Both the Hen Fetch prop AND the effect share the name "Mental Epic." I believe that Fetch based his creation on Peter Warlock's earlier effect called "The Taped Slate."

"Confabulation" is the name of the effect involving multiple related predictions created by Alan Shaxton and popularized by, among others, Ron Wilson "The Uncanny Scot." In several versions (e.g., Wilson's and others) the prediction is found in a sealed envelope which, in turn, is found inside the zipped compartment of a wallet. A variety of wallets (the LePaul, Mullica, Seabrooke and others) have been used, with the LePaul (Wilson's preference) being one of the most popular.

Sounds like you're spending too much time on the Internet instead of studying magic and practicing your penmanship.

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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Jonathan Townsend » April 23rd, 2009, 3:35 pm

It's okay - I've gotten as far as a passable lowercase a and now working at a reliable lowercase b.

I was around Tannen's enough to recognize the Hen Fetch item - is the Peter Warlock item in Pentagram?

And yes I used to get the Ken Brooke adverts and almost wish I could carry a wallet that large (even the Kaps was huge for this young american) as the Shaxon trick reads as great fun. IMHO the "madlib" is about as close as seems fair to discussing the how-to when asking about contrasting method and effect on items that now have lots of varients on the market.

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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Dick Christian » April 24th, 2009, 6:56 am

Jon,

I'm not sure if Warlock's "Taped Slate" appears in Pentagram or elsewhere. I'll check my Pentagram file and get back to you.
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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Philippe Billot » April 24th, 2009, 8:20 am

Warlock speaks about Fetsch's Mental Epic in his column Magic Go Round in Pentagram, vol. 6, no. 7, april 1952.

And, according to Potter's Index, there is a trick named The Taped Slate in Warlock's Patterns for Psychics (1947), page 17.

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Re: Sources for Mental Epic routines

Postby Dick Christian » April 24th, 2009, 10:51 am

Jon,

Looks like Phillipe has answered your question.
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