Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

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Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby JHostler » October 15th, 2023, 10:58 pm

The video linked below is a bit odd/awkward in that my arms are wrapped around a camera tripod for a "rear view." This knacky-but-fun thing is designed for circumstances where someone insists on seeing magic performed from behind. From the front, you'd see my right pinky hooked (its tip contacting the proximal interphalangeal joint/knuckle of the third finger) and acting as a basket for the falling ring.

I strongly suspect this has been done with coins, but am not a “coin guy” per se and hope someone can point me in the direction of a precedent/credit. Advance thanks…

https://youtu.be/KN82ZaYgwDA
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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Philippe Billot » October 16th, 2023, 3:52 am

I believe it's Richard Himber Vanish

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Dave Le Fevre » October 16th, 2023, 3:55 am

Yes, it's a Himber Vanish

I've been struggling to master it for far too many years

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Philippe Billot » October 16th, 2023, 5:19 am

Me too to find a reference.

The New Gen, no. 2, 1971, page 68

But his move is older. It's in a marketed trick but I don't know which one.

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby JHostler » October 16th, 2023, 6:17 am

Thanks Dave & Philippe. I just found some video of the Himber move. Not precisely the same technique, but pretty close in concept!
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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Philippe Billot » October 16th, 2023, 12:54 pm

You can find the Himber Coin Vanish in Apocalypse, Vol. 5, no. 9, september 1982, page 682.

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby EdwinCorrie » October 16th, 2023, 6:08 pm

Philippe Billot wrote:You can find the Himber Coin Vanish in Apocalypse, Vol. 5, no. 9, september 1982, page 682.


I'm not well versed in coin magic, but apart from a book by Aurelio Paviato that's the only place I've seen it explained in writing. Surely it must be somewhere else? Ian Kendall also teaches it very well in his Basic Coin Magic Vol. 2 download from Vanishing Inc.

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Jack Shalom » October 16th, 2023, 8:38 pm

Sankey has it somewhere either in print or video. I think he uses it for a few items.

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 16th, 2023, 10:46 pm

Sankey uses the Himber Vanish.
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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Philippe Billot » October 17th, 2023, 3:54 am

EdwinCorrie wrote:
Philippe Billot wrote:You can find the Himber Coin Vanish in Apocalypse, Vol. 5, no. 9, september 1982, page 682.


I'm not well versed in coin magic, but apart from a book by Aurelio Paviato that's the only place I've seen it explained in writing. Surely it must be somewhere else? Ian Kendall also teaches it very well in his Basic Coin Magic Vol. 2 download from Vanishing Inc.


It's also explained in The Coin and Card Magic of Bobby Bernard (1982, page 43) who seems to have been a good friend of Richard Himber.

There is a book entitled Richard Himber: The Man and his Magic (1980) but I haven't with book.

If someone can check...

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Re: Precedents for Ring/Coin Move

Postby Edwin Corrie » October 17th, 2023, 5:21 am

I don't have either of those books :cry: , but the "Himber Vanish" does seem to be in both of them under different names:

https://donsmagicandbooks.com/products/richard-himber-the-man-and-his-magic-ed-levy (in Chapter III; see Contents pages)
https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/book/875

And the Conjuring Archive says it's related to the Kaps Drop Vanish.


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