I'm interested to know what effects can be utilized with the Gilbreath Principle? Any insight would be much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gilbreath Principle
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Re: Gilbreath Principle
Phil Goldstein is working on a book of tricks based on the Gilbreath principle. I don't know what the timetable is on its release.
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There are several tricks using the gilbreath principle in The Complete Walton Volume 2
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Re: Gilbreath Principle
Also check out Max Maven's Videomind videotapes, and Steve Mayhew's "Angels may Shuffle but the Devil Deals the Cards" notes. The latter includes a poker deal in which a spectator can riffle shuffle the deck.
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Peter Duffie has also quite a few effects using the Gilbreath principle. BTW, I offer Peter Duffie's material as well as the before mentioned Steve Mayhew Poker Deals as ebooks.
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Freunde,
I have written a manuscript about the Gilbreath Principle in 1979 which served as notes for my lecture at the VI. Jornadas Cartomagicas in San Lorenzo del Escorial. It was the first of my 26 Escorial Monographs, which were sold by Jeff Busby.
Reinhard
I have written a manuscript about the Gilbreath Principle in 1979 which served as notes for my lecture at the VI. Jornadas Cartomagicas in San Lorenzo del Escorial. It was the first of my 26 Escorial Monographs, which were sold by Jeff Busby.
Reinhard
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Are these notes still available? If so, where can they be obtained?
Thanks! :)
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Mark,
I will mail you directly.
In Arthur F. MacTier's book CARD CONCEPTS – An Anthology of Numerical & Sequential Principles within Card Magic, Davenport, London 2000, you will find in chapter 27, 28 and 29 about 160 pages, in which Arthur deals with the Gilbreath Principle and describes effects.
In Peter Duffie's and Robin Robertson's new book CARD CONSPIRACY , which will come out in the end of this month in two volumes, you will find in the chapter 10 of vol.1 the description of the principle and 5 effects.
In my monograph GILBREATH"S PRINCIPLES (24 pages) you will find the detailed explanation of the two Gilbreath Principles, examples of effects and a specification of about 250 published „Gil-Effects“.
Reinhard
I will mail you directly.
In Arthur F. MacTier's book CARD CONCEPTS – An Anthology of Numerical & Sequential Principles within Card Magic, Davenport, London 2000, you will find in chapter 27, 28 and 29 about 160 pages, in which Arthur deals with the Gilbreath Principle and describes effects.
In Peter Duffie's and Robin Robertson's new book CARD CONSPIRACY , which will come out in the end of this month in two volumes, you will find in the chapter 10 of vol.1 the description of the principle and 5 effects.
In my monograph GILBREATH"S PRINCIPLES (24 pages) you will find the detailed explanation of the two Gilbreath Principles, examples of effects and a specification of about 250 published „Gil-Effects“.
Reinhard
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Just for the record:
"Le principe de Gilbreath" by Richard Vollmer (Magix Unlimited, 1991) gives a nice introduction to Gilbreath's first and second principles with a bit of history, the original routine from Linking Ring magazine, plus a collection of about 30 other tricks - all in French.
The tricks are all taken from books and magazines, except for one or two for which no references are cited. The following is a quick list of the sources:
Linking Ring
Pallbearers Review
Ibidem
New Tops
Gene Finnell's Card Magic
Combined Card Sessions (Peter Kane)
Paul Curry Presents
Card Cavalcade 2 (Jerry Mentzer)
Best of Friends (Harry Lorayne)
Faro Fantasy (Paul Swinford)
Doth (Phil Goldstein)
The Aronson Approach (Simon Aronson)
Complete Walton Vols. 1 and 2
"Le principe de Gilbreath" by Richard Vollmer (Magix Unlimited, 1991) gives a nice introduction to Gilbreath's first and second principles with a bit of history, the original routine from Linking Ring magazine, plus a collection of about 30 other tricks - all in French.
The tricks are all taken from books and magazines, except for one or two for which no references are cited. The following is a quick list of the sources:
Linking Ring
Pallbearers Review
Ibidem
New Tops
Gene Finnell's Card Magic
Combined Card Sessions (Peter Kane)
Paul Curry Presents
Card Cavalcade 2 (Jerry Mentzer)
Best of Friends (Harry Lorayne)
Faro Fantasy (Paul Swinford)
Doth (Phil Goldstein)
The Aronson Approach (Simon Aronson)
Complete Walton Vols. 1 and 2
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Re: Gilbreath Principle
AFAIK, there is one and only one Gilbreath principal.Originally posted by reinhard mueller:
Mark,
In my monograph GILBREATHS PRINCIPLES (24 pages) you will find the detailed explanation of the [b]two Gilbreath Principles, examples of effects and a specification of about 250 published Gil-Effects.
Reinhard[/b]
Any others you hear about (e.g. second, third principles) are really just variations of the first (and only principle)
Of course I could be wrong.
Actually a quick search on this issue turned up this quote from Max Maven.
By: Max Maven
Some clarification is in order.
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The Gilbreath Principle is just that: a mathematical principle. As such, it is not an invention, but rather something that has always existed and was eventually discovered, explored and applied.
I have tracked down applications of the principle to card magic that significantly predate the release of "Magnetic Colors" in 1958. However, there is no question that Norman Gilbreath was the first to publish the principle qua principle, and as such it is quite legitimate that it has been given his name.
Finally, please, please, let's get this straight: There is only one principle. The notion that there is more than one stems from an early error, involving a specialized example of the principle which led to the misperception that there were several related principles. This false conclusion has been perpetuated ever since.
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I hope I can make myself understood, as I am bad at English.
I understand that there are a lot friends who have not read the original articles of Norman Gilbreath. In the Linking Ring, Vol. 46, #6, 1966, pp. 69 - 88 you will find the Norman Gilbreath – Hocus Pocus Parade. Here are used the terms Gilbreath's First Principle (p.70) [=GP1] and Gilbreath's Second Principle( p.85) [=GP2]. “Magnetic Color” was Norman Gilbreath's first article using the GP1. It was published 45(!) years ago in “The Linking Ring” Vol.38, #5, 1958, p.60.
These terms were used to emphasize the effects which were performed using a red/black set-up (N=26 groups of M =2 cards  GP1) in relation the set-up N groups of M cards, with M > 2, GP2.
So the informed cardicians exactly knows of what you are specking using the terms 1st or 2nd Gilbreath Principle, and naturally they know that GP1 is a special case of GP2! This is how it came about that “all-embracing” definition of the “Repeating Series”-Principle (R/S Principle) see Hudson/Lord in “The Linking Ring”, Vol.46, #8, 1966, p.63.
By the way, I was honored to support Richard Vollmer, and Arthur F. MacTier with my contributions to that subject. I have it not mentioned that I have written a book “Gilbreath's Prinzipien” which was published by Zauberstudio Braunmueller, Munich, 1982. It is in written in German.
Reinhard
I understand that there are a lot friends who have not read the original articles of Norman Gilbreath. In the Linking Ring, Vol. 46, #6, 1966, pp. 69 - 88 you will find the Norman Gilbreath – Hocus Pocus Parade. Here are used the terms Gilbreath's First Principle (p.70) [=GP1] and Gilbreath's Second Principle( p.85) [=GP2]. “Magnetic Color” was Norman Gilbreath's first article using the GP1. It was published 45(!) years ago in “The Linking Ring” Vol.38, #5, 1958, p.60.
These terms were used to emphasize the effects which were performed using a red/black set-up (N=26 groups of M =2 cards  GP1) in relation the set-up N groups of M cards, with M > 2, GP2.
So the informed cardicians exactly knows of what you are specking using the terms 1st or 2nd Gilbreath Principle, and naturally they know that GP1 is a special case of GP2! This is how it came about that “all-embracing” definition of the “Repeating Series”-Principle (R/S Principle) see Hudson/Lord in “The Linking Ring”, Vol.46, #8, 1966, p.63.
By the way, I was honored to support Richard Vollmer, and Arthur F. MacTier with my contributions to that subject. I have it not mentioned that I have written a book “Gilbreath's Prinzipien” which was published by Zauberstudio Braunmueller, Munich, 1982. It is in written in German.
Reinhard
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Hi Reinhard,
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Hi,
I'm very interested in the Gilbreath Principle, for shuffle tracking (blackjack) and cardmagic of course. But in the many books written on the subject, none of them treat the mathematical aspect of the principle. The books offer just a description of several properties and applications. However, I think the principle is mathematically "modelable" to deepen his properties more thoroughly. Is there anyone who know if this study has been already done?
I'm very interested in the Gilbreath Principle, for shuffle tracking (blackjack) and cardmagic of course. But in the many books written on the subject, none of them treat the mathematical aspect of the principle. The books offer just a description of several properties and applications. However, I think the principle is mathematically "modelable" to deepen his properties more thoroughly. Is there anyone who know if this study has been already done?
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Mathieu
It would take the resources of a good university research library to fully explore how academics have modeled and played with Gilbreath's priniciple.
But a little internet searching revealed . . .
see links:
1st paper
french paper
Note that reading a mathematics technical paper is like reading a foreign language.
It would take the resources of a good university research library to fully explore how academics have modeled and played with Gilbreath's priniciple.
But a little internet searching revealed . . .
see links:
1st paper
french paper
Note that reading a mathematics technical paper is like reading a foreign language.