I just came into ownership of "Gaffed to the Hilt" (second edition), and I'm most interested in testing out some of the ideas (mostly as an intellectual exercise.)
Although the book gives a reasonable description of the gaffs, it gives no advice on the construction of said gaffs.
While I've only just begun to experiment with creating these types of gaffs, and I am happy to invest the time in learning my own techniques, I was wondering if anyone has some real experience in creating the gaffs and would be willing to put me on the right road, so to speak.
The dental dam I tried did not adhere with rubber cement in my experiments, so ideally, I would like to get some advice on proper materials, as it were.
Thanks in advance.
--- Guy
Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Did you apply the rubber cement to two different surfaces and let them dry first? :confused:
Stay tooned.
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Hi Pete -
Thanks for replying. I did - I applied it to the dam material and the card, and I did not get a reasonable adhesion.
I will try again with another brand as soon as I can find one...
--- Guy
Thanks for replying. I did - I applied it to the dam material and the card, and I did not get a reasonable adhesion.
I will try again with another brand as soon as I can find one...
--- Guy
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Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Also, make sure the glue is dry on both sides before sticking the pieces together, Blowing on them helps speed this drying/.
Scott
Scott
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Speaking as a cyclist who has fixed countless punctures, yes, it's essential that the rubber solution be absolutely dry.
Apply a thin layer, leave it for 15 minutes.
(For inner tubes, drying it with a hair dryer is not only quicker but also better, since it ensures that no moisture enters the glue. But that's presumably impractical in this application.)
Dave
Apply a thin layer, leave it for 15 minutes.
(For inner tubes, drying it with a hair dryer is not only quicker but also better, since it ensures that no moisture enters the glue. But that's presumably impractical in this application.)
Dave
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
You will also find it helps to lightly sand the
surface of the card to rough it up a bit before
applying the rubber cement.
surface of the card to rough it up a bit before
applying the rubber cement.
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Thank you for the advice, gentlemen.
I've found some satisfaction with contact cement. (Which seems to be a relative of rubber cement.)
I am removing the card finish with fine steel wool to good result.
I feel I am using latex that is too thin right now, but I will be testing with slightly thicker latex soon.
It dramatically puckers and wrinkles as soon as either type of glue is applied; I assume there is an issue with the glue solvents. It is quite tricky right now to keep it from folding in upon itself.
I imagine I will need to rig a small stretching frame for best results, but that's a step for another day ;) Right now, a few strategic toothpicks are working for my experiments.
Thanks again!
--- Guy
I've found some satisfaction with contact cement. (Which seems to be a relative of rubber cement.)
I am removing the card finish with fine steel wool to good result.
I feel I am using latex that is too thin right now, but I will be testing with slightly thicker latex soon.
It dramatically puckers and wrinkles as soon as either type of glue is applied; I assume there is an issue with the glue solvents. It is quite tricky right now to keep it from folding in upon itself.
I imagine I will need to rig a small stretching frame for best results, but that's a step for another day ;) Right now, a few strategic toothpicks are working for my experiments.
Thanks again!
--- Guy
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Thin latex will wrinkle when rubber solution is applied. I'd try putting rubber solution on the card but not on the latex, and cleaning the latex with isopropyl alcohol or something similar. When patching a bike inner tube, one doesn't put solution on the patch, but the patch does have a very clean surface. So simply cleaning the latex would, I'd think, be sufficient.
But this is all speculation on my part - I haven't tried it.
Dave
But this is all speculation on my part - I haven't tried it.
Dave
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Make sure to wash the rubber dam before you try to use it. It is often found with a fine powder on it and this will hinder the adhesion. Then cut a piece of rubber to the size you desire and then stretch the piece of rubber (how much will be determined by experimenting) and tape it down to a piece of heavy cardboard or a piece of glass. Just tape down the top and bottom of the dental dam. Now you can apply the rubber cement and the rubber will not wrinkle.
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
One hundred brownie points to Gary. Thanks for the glass suggestion. I see the solution perfectly now.
Thanks!
--- Guy
Thanks!
--- Guy
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
You are very welcome Guy.....
Re: Any advice on making flap/acro cards?
Dam gimmick setups...
If you need to do entire card surfaces, stretch the dam and secure it in an embroidery frame (like a drum clamp). This will hold an entire piece of dam slightly stretch and taught. Wash the powder off the dam surface with water, or alcohol swab, then use very thin layer of contact cement, or use rubber cement if you let everything dry while the dam is still stretched in the frame.
-Magic Ian (author "best Dam Tricks-1980)
If you need to do entire card surfaces, stretch the dam and secure it in an embroidery frame (like a drum clamp). This will hold an entire piece of dam slightly stretch and taught. Wash the powder off the dam surface with water, or alcohol swab, then use very thin layer of contact cement, or use rubber cement if you let everything dry while the dam is still stretched in the frame.
-Magic Ian (author "best Dam Tricks-1980)