3 card monte

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3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » November 20th, 2017, 7:45 pm

Hi i know is a 3 card monte of Franke Lane uses 4 card ( only 3 cards ares seen) use wax and use a duplicate card thas mean ( QH, QH, 10 S 10 C) The money card is QH. Knowbody knwo where is published?
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Re: 3 card monte

Postby Philippe Billot » November 21st, 2017, 2:42 am

May be in Book of Original Card Tricks, page 2.

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » November 23rd, 2017, 12:16 am

autor?
Tittle?
year?
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Re: 3 card monte

Postby Philippe Billot » November 23rd, 2017, 2:46 am

Yes, sir.

autor? Frank Lane
Tittle? What My Grandfather Said
year? 1930

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » November 25th, 2017, 8:19 am

I dont see any book of Franke Lane with that tittle.

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby Philippe Billot » November 25th, 2017, 1:16 pm

If you go to Ask Alexander, you will see this answer :

https://askalexander.org/search/%22Book ... Tricks%22/

Ergo, this book really exists BUT it's possible that it is now out of order.

And if you have The Potter Index (Volume 13, page 282), you can see that page 2, there is a trick named "What my Grandfather Said" indexed at Three Card Monte.

I'm very sorry but I haven't this book. So I can't send you the explanation of the trick. It's too bad!

I'm also sorry that you don't believe me as I'm a very serious man, extremely pernickety (as said Jon Racherbaumer).

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby observer » November 25th, 2017, 4:20 pm

Philippe Billot wrote:<>
And if you have The Potter Index (Volume 13, page 282), you can see that page 2, there is a trick named "What my Grandfather Said" indexed at Three Card Monte.

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Is the trick named after the old line about ending up with an ear full of cider?

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby Philippe Billot » November 25th, 2017, 6:17 pm


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Re: 3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » November 27th, 2017, 12:25 am

mm no, i know the bet is published in Scarne books, i say the version of this same 3 card monte Tamariz do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RftMhhLFAYQ


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Re: 3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » November 27th, 2017, 7:45 am

yes i know this info thank you and i have check the Potter index, but i´m searchinmg the version of the video, i think is Frank Lane´s
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Re: 3 card monte

Postby observer » December 3rd, 2017, 12:37 am

"Frank Lane's Grandfather Trick" by Irv Weiner

reviewed in Genii, January 1953

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » December 3rd, 2017, 12:32 pm

mmm interesting so the trick is creation of Frank Lane or Irv?
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Is publised in any place?
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Re: 3 card monte

Postby Philippe Billot » December 3rd, 2017, 1:00 pm

The Trick was first marketed in 1934 by Frank Lane.
See The Linking Ring, Vol. 14, no 3, may 1934, page 236.

In Genii, January 1953, DARIEL FITZKEE in Paper and Ink, page 204, writes :

I am not sure, but I think I mentioned that Frank Lane's GRANDFATHER TRICK is again available through Weiner. $1.00 for the regular size and $2.00 in jumbo cards.

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby observer » December 3rd, 2017, 2:57 pm

Philippe Billot wrote:The Trick was first marketed in 1934 by Frank Lane.
See The Linking Ring, Vol. 14, no 3, may 1934, page 236.

In Genii, January 1953, DARIEL FITZKEE in Paper and Ink, page 204, writes :

I am not sure, but I think I mentioned that Frank Lane's GRANDFATHER TRICK is again available through Weiner. $1.00 for the regular size and $2.00 in jumbo cards.


The two sentences M. Billot quotes are all that Genii had to say on the subject in January 1953. So, not a review but a mention, sorry!

And the Linking Ring in May 1934 has more to say but not much more illuminating:

" 'That's What My Grandfather Said' -- A very slick monte method with jumbo cards. These are held in the hand and freely shown at all times, yet the working is so easy it's a shame. The 'grandfather' patter doesn't do it any harm either."

Here is a picture of the manuscript itself, as sold by Potter & Potter a while ago.

https://www.quickerthantheeye.com/p/car ... Trick-5553

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Re: 3 card monte

Postby marselmarsel » December 4th, 2017, 6:33 pm

ok the frank Lane material is so rare, anybody has this material?
Frank Lane's Book of Original Card Tricks
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