Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

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Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Bob Farmer » April 11th, 2017, 9:51 pm

I'm looking for a reference/inventor/info on a Rubik's Cube routine I saw.

Two Cubes are shown: the spectator mixes one, the magician mixes the other.

The magician quickly solves his cube, then scrambles it.

Kicker: the magician's scrambled Cube not matches the spectator's scrambled Cube.

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Orlan » April 11th, 2017, 10:32 pm

There's a thread about matching cubes and credits in that other place, from a while ago.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view ... pic=597942

Hope that helps!

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Denis Behr » April 12th, 2017, 2:10 am

I'm not sure you got your kicker right?!

Here are some references for Rubik's Cube effects: http://www.conjuringarchive.com/tree.php?cat=94

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Bob Farmer » April 12th, 2017, 6:58 am

Denis--typo--I meant to say the two scrambled cubes NOW match.

I've been told this might be an Asi Wind effect or it might be from a (French?) DVD.

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Joe Mckay » April 12th, 2017, 11:33 pm

It was Steven Brundage on Penn & Teller Fool Us.

Check out the end of this routine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ03AQRqhFg

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Bob Farmer » April 13th, 2017, 8:26 am

Joe thank you--that's the routine!

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Joe Mckay » April 23rd, 2017, 9:08 am

Hey Bob,

This trick reference might be of interest:

http://www.conjuringarchive.com/show.php?book=987&highlight=46977

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Bob Farmer » April 23rd, 2017, 11:07 am

Thank you, Joe. This is all in aid of a analogous effect I'm working on using Tarot cards. There are 14 cards in a Tarot card suit (e.g., pentacles), Those cards can be arranged in 87,178,291,200 different ways, so, if for example, a spectator and a magician both mixed duplicate sets of 14 cards and they ended up in the same order, that would be a pretty good trick. And for the kicker: if the order the spectator created is predicted, a 87,178,291,199 to 1 chance, that would be a pretty good trick. And if, the magician could take the 14 cards and, without looking at them, mix them up some more and then deal them out to show they are now in 1 to 14 order, that would also be a pretty good trick. It's called, "Tarodiction," and I'm working on it now with aid, assistance and commentary from Bill Mullins, Stephen Minch and Matt Field. More later.

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Denis Behr » April 24th, 2017, 2:49 am

Joe Mckay wrote:Hey Bob,

This trick reference might be of interest:

http://www.conjuringarchive.com/show.php?book=987&highlight=46977

There's a whole category for this type of matching effect. It's as old as the cube itself. http://www.conjuringarchive.com/show.php?cat=2192

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby MagicbyAlfred » April 24th, 2017, 3:50 am

"Tarodiction" sounds like it's going to be phenomenal, and I like that it will use Tarot cards because that will add color and intrigue, and Lord knows, there are more than enough effects using regular playing cards. It seems unfathomable that 14 cards can be arranged over 87 BILLION ways, and until very recently, I wouldn't have had a clue as to how to calculate or prove that. But now I think I understand how the computation works, thanks to a post by Bill a couple months or so ago in which he corrected my math and educated me. If I learned my lesson correctly, then the number of combinations in which 14 cards can be arranged is determined by "14 factorial." (i.e., 1 x 1 = 1; 2 x 1 = 2; 3 x 2 = 6; 4 x 6 = 24; 5 x 24 =120; 6 x 120 = 720; 7 x 720 = 5,040; 8 x 5,040 = 40,320; 9 x 40,320 = 362,880; 10 x 362,880 = 3,628,800; 11 x 3,628,800 = 39,916,800; 12 x 39,916,800 = 479,001,600; 13 x 479,001,600 = 6,227,020,800; 14 x 6,227,020,800 = 87,178,291,200.) Then, to calculate the odds of getting any particular one of those 87,178,291,200 possibilities when the cards are randomly mixed, subtract 1 from that total, and it comes to 87,178,291,199 to 1. Anyway, the routine-in-the-making certainly looks like it is a collaboration of some very bright minds...

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Re: Rubik's Cube Routine Reference

Postby Joe Mckay » April 24th, 2017, 3:02 pm

Sent you a PM, Bob!


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