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Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Richard Hatch » October 16th, 2017, 10:37 pm

I don't recall if this has been posted about previously, but Dani DaOrtiz has put together a one day seminar on Johann Nepomuk Hofzinser (1806-1875) to take place in Madrid on Saturday, November 18, 2017. Dani and Miguel Angel Gea, Magic Christian, I and a "mystery guest" will give formal presentations on the Viennese master. This will coincide with the release of a new book of Hofzinser inspired magic by Dani DaOrtiz and Miguel Angel Gea, with the cooperation of Juan Tamariz. I'm really looking forward to it! Full schedule and booking details here:
https://gkaps.com/store/p/hofzinser-218.html

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Bill Mullins » October 17th, 2017, 9:22 am

That's the first time I've ever seen the word "Hofzinsian" used.

Richard, will you be doing effects from the book you translated?

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Postby Richard Kaufman » October 17th, 2017, 10:13 am

It is my understanding that I will be publishing the English-language edition of the Hofzinser book.
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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Brad Henderson » October 17th, 2017, 10:18 am

RK, you mean the english language edition of this hofsinzer book, yes? It is my understanding that magic christian has two more volumes (maybe it's just one) left in his series. hoping that will make it into english as the earlier ones did.

any idea if that is still in a pipeline somewhere ?

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 17th, 2017, 10:22 am

I mean the Hofzinser book that Dani is doing.

I have nothing to do with Magic Christian's superb books, of which there are two more volumnes (Part 3, in two volumes) which was to be published by Hermetic Press and Conjuring Arts Research Center. I do know that Minch does have the book in the works, and it is being translated at this moment.
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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Ted M » October 18th, 2017, 2:29 pm

Multiple exciting publishing projects being discussed here...

Glad to hear the gears are turning!

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Richard Hatch » October 19th, 2017, 2:20 pm

Bill Mullins wrote:Richard, will you be doing effects from the book you translated?

My topic is currently ""La Estructura Artistica de las Presentacciones de Hofzinser". But since I have two hours to fill, I may perform some effects by way of illustration. Still working on it!

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Bill Mullins » October 19th, 2017, 3:00 pm

I don't speak Spanish, so I had to Google Translate the title of your talk:

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Postby Richard Hatch » October 19th, 2017, 4:01 pm

Bill Mullins wrote:I don't speak Spanish, so I had to Google Translate the title of your talk:

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There goes the first hour of my talk!

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Postby F.Amílcar » October 20th, 2017, 7:03 am

Dear friend Bill:

The correct translation is THE ARTISTIC STRUCTURES OF HOFZINSER'S PRESENTATIONS.

More or less like this.

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F. Amílcar Riega i Bello.

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Q. Kumber » October 20th, 2017, 7:13 am

The most interesting thing I learnt from the Magic Christian Hofzinser books was that old JN himself opened his card section with lots of flourishes including switching in and out trick decks. These flourishes were regularly mentioned and complimented in contemporary newspapers and not one of those reports ever said anything about demonstrations of skill taking away from the magical moments.

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Bill Mullins » October 20th, 2017, 10:34 am

F.Amílcar wrote:Dear friend Bill:

The correct translation is THE ARTISTIC STRUCTURES OF HOFZINSER'S PRESENTATIONS.


Thank you for the correct translation.

I was trying to play a small joke at Richard's expense. I don't think he would really lecture at a Hofzinser seminar on the twenty-one card trick!

I am sure he will do a fine job, and wish I could attend all the lectures.

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 20th, 2017, 2:11 pm

Q. Kumber wrote:The most interesting thing I learnt from the Magic Christian Hofzinser books was that old JN himself opened his card section with lots of flourishes including switching in and out trick decks. These flourishes were regularly mentioned and complimented in contemporary newspapers and not one of those reports ever said anything about demonstrations of skill taking away from the magical moments.


The idea of "naturalness" did not exist at this point, either in theater in general or in magic.
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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Q. Kumber » October 20th, 2017, 2:45 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:
Q. Kumber wrote:The most interesting thing I learnt from the Magic Christian Hofzinser books was that old JN himself opened his card section with lots of flourishes including switching in and out trick decks. These flourishes were regularly mentioned and complimented in contemporary newspapers and not one of those reports ever said anything about demonstrations of skill taking away from the magical moments.


The idea of "naturalness" did not exist at this point, either in theater in general or in magic.


I suspect JN was very natural for his day.

When you read the books you realise he probably invented what we now call Cardistry.

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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 20th, 2017, 3:34 pm

Yes, but he used his own invention: the so-called "Electric Deck"!
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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Q. Kumber » October 21st, 2017, 8:18 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:Yes, but he used his own invention: the so-called "Electric Deck"!


It's obvious (at least to me) that JN was totally ruthless when it came to method. Whether it be pure skill or amazing gimmicks, he went for directness of effect.

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » October 21st, 2017, 12:07 pm

Q. Kumber wrote:...JN was totally ruthless when it came to method. Whether it be pure skill or amazing gimmicks, he went for directness of effect.
Agreed. Even to directly argue along those lines about props being deceptive and correct ("ne plus ultra") for performing in his letters.
Look how far he was willing to go to make a card change in his "Synonymous Thoughts" trick using a flap card.
Lost and Strayed... a King? Yeah he went there. That was 1850.
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Postby Denis Behr » October 21st, 2017, 6:07 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:
Q. Kumber wrote:The most interesting thing I learnt from the Magic Christian Hofzinser books was that old JN himself opened his card section with lots of flourishes including switching in and out trick decks. These flourishes were regularly mentioned and complimented in contemporary newspapers and not one of those reports ever said anything about demonstrations of skill taking away from the magical moments.


The idea of "naturalness" did not exist at this point, either in theater in general or in magic.

"The more simple and natural the movements of the performer, the less likely is the spectator to detect the trick." - Jean-Eugène Robert-Houdin (1868)

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Postby Richard Kaufman » October 21st, 2017, 8:12 pm

He wrote it, but we don't know exactly what he meant by it.
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Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

Postby Jonathan Townsend » October 21st, 2017, 10:18 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:The idea of "naturalness" did not exist at this point, either in theater in general or in magic.

How did you come to that opinion? These lines from a previous century come to mind on the topic:
...with this special o'erstep not
the modesty of nature: for any thing so overdone is
from the purpose of playing, whose end, both at the
first and now, was and is, to hold, as 'twere, the
mirror up to nature; to show virtue her own feature,
scorn her own image, and the very age and body of
the time his form and pressure. Now this overdone,
or come tardy off, though it make the unskilful
laugh, cannot but make the judicious grieve...

Shakespeare.
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