More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Discuss the latest news and rumors in the magic world.
User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » March 5th, 2016, 5:57 pm

Besides tonight's appearance by Orson Welles, on the schedule is Uri Geller, to air on 3/12, and Harry Anderson on 3/18.

Bill Mullins
Posts: 4367
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Huntsville, AL

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Bill Mullins » March 8th, 2016, 6:05 pm

This episode with Geller was the one where Randi helped the production staff prepare for tricks Geller might pull. From the NYTimes:

"Soon afterward, when Geller was invited to appear on “The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson,” the producers approached Randi, who had been a frequent guest, to help them ensure that Geller could employ no tricks during his appearance. Randi gave Carson’s prop men advice on how to prepare for the taping, and the result was a legendary immolation, in which Geller offered up flustered excuses to his host as his abilities failed him again and again. “I sat there for 22 minutes, humiliated,” Geller told me, when I spoke to him in September. “I went back to my hotel, devastated. I was about to pack up the next day and go back to Tel Aviv. I thought, That’s it — I’m destroyed.” But to Geller’s astonishment, he was immediately booked on “The Merv Griffin Show.” He was on his way to becoming a paranormal superstar. “That Johnny Carson show made Uri Geller,” Geller said. To an enthusiastically trusting public, his failure only made his gifts seem more real: If he were performing magic tricks, they would surely work every time."

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » March 13th, 2016, 7:32 pm

In today's world of Pow! Zing! Shebang! TV "entertainment," those segments would never play and Mr. Geller would never get a callback.

Mr. Geller had Ricardo Montalban hold a spoon which in the end had a slight bend.

Did Uri study the props on the table and notice that the spoon already had a slight bend and took the opportunity?

(By the way, Orson Welles lamented that he left his magic props in his other jacket so there was unfortunately no magic in that appearance.
And - don't forget - Harry Anderson's appearance is this Thursday, St. Patrick's Day.) (Thanks, Dustin!)

http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tv/johnny-c ... =antennatv
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly

Jeff Haas
Posts: 934
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: San Mateo, CA

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Jeff Haas » March 16th, 2016, 3:38 am

So I just saw the Uri segment - OMG, what a painful thing to watch. You can almost see the gears spinning as he thinks, "I'm f*cked."

It's also amazing to see the pacing of the overall show back then. Nobody seems in any sort of hurry.

JFox
Posts: 165
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Hollywood, Ca. USA

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby JFox » March 17th, 2016, 3:41 pm

On last night's repeat of the Johnny Carson Show (Antenna-TV: Wed, March 16, 2016) - Dick Cavett was a guest, and he showed Johnny the NATE LEIPZIG "SUSPENDED CANE" routine (i.e. cane clings to fingers).

(ala "A Few Grips with a Cane" - in Vernon's "Tribute to Nate Leipzig" by Lewis Ganson)

Johnny didn't seem too impressed, as Dick made it look as if he were simply balancing the cane on the fleshy part of his thumb (which I guess, in part, he was).

When done correctly, and not as a throw-away party stunt --- the Leipzig routine is one beautiful "suspension illusion" to witness.

If someone can find a video of the Carson & Cavett segment, can you please post it here?

User avatar
Richard Kaufman
Posts: 23757
Joined: July 18th, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Theodore DeLand
Location: Washington DC
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Richard Kaufman » March 17th, 2016, 3:59 pm

The shows were best when they were 90 minutes and Johnny really had a chance to talk to the guests, and the guests interacted more with each other. There were also more sketches.
Subscribe today to Genii Magazine

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » March 17th, 2016, 4:36 pm

They run the 90-minute shows on the weekends.

JFox
Posts: 165
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Hollywood, Ca. USA

Re: More Johnny Carson (Harry Anderson)

Postby JFox » March 18th, 2016, 8:26 pm

On last night's airing (Thursday March 17, 2016), guest Harry Anderson presented Johnny with an Abbott catalog #6 (1940), which led to Carson reminiscing about ordering from Abbott's during his youth.

Carson always mentioned Chicago Magic and National Magic.

Harry read an item from the Abbott catalog, and did a comedy jumbo "marked cards" trick...and then presented Carson with "Terror-Eyes" novelty eyeglasses.

Johnny was beaming like a child while reminiscing about his childhood days & Magic.

observer
Posts: 260
Joined: August 31st, 2014, 5:32 am
Favorite Magician: Harry Kellar - Charlie Miller - Paul Rosini - Jay Marshall
Location: Chicago

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby observer » March 18th, 2016, 8:52 pm

I read somewhere (maybe in this forum) that the turban Carson wore as Carnac the Magnificent was the actual one worn by Alexander The Man Who Knows - true?

Smurf
Posts: 490
Joined: May 31st, 2010, 11:23 am

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Smurf » April 1st, 2016, 11:01 pm

John Mendoza is on Carson tonight - starting now on the east coast.

...Oops. They just said Mendoza was a comedian, so it looks like there won't be magic on there after all.

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » April 2nd, 2016, 3:00 am

observer wrote:I read somewhere (maybe in this forum) that the turban Carson wore as Carnac the Magnificent was the actual one worn by Alexander The Man Who Knows - true?

No.

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » April 2nd, 2016, 3:08 am

Smurf wrote:John Mendoza is on Carson tonight - starting now on the east coast.

...Oops. They just said Mendoza was a comedian, so it looks like there won't be magic on there after all.

Yes, not our John Mendoza. However, Kreskin will be on the episode that airs Sunday night.

Another thing one needs to be wary of is who Johnny says will be on the next episode, so you might hear--as a friend of mine did and he got rather excited--that (for example) Mike Skinner will be on "tomorrow's show." That may have been true 35 years ago, but not now: they are not running these in any particular order.

Here is a handy upcoming episode guide from the network:
http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tv/johnny-c ... =antennatv

observer
Posts: 260
Joined: August 31st, 2014, 5:32 am
Favorite Magician: Harry Kellar - Charlie Miller - Paul Rosini - Jay Marshall
Location: Chicago

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby observer » April 2nd, 2016, 11:50 am

Dustin Stinett wrote:

No.



Now part of the (in development) Museum of Television, founded by James Comisar ("A one-man Smithsonian of TV memorabilia", Forbes)

"'It's been ten years since James first called, and I found him to be genuine, sincere, and very passionate about what he preserved,' says Sanders [Helen Sanders, Johnny Carson's PA], who went to see highlights from Comisar's collection and realized he was an excellent conservator. Carson agreed to give him the Carnac turban, which he had already taken home, so he invited Comisar to come pick it up." (Los Angeles Times, May 2002)

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » April 2nd, 2016, 12:22 pm

I remember when my friend Doug Thornton, a Carson enthusiast/collector, showed me a magazine article about the guy who owns the turban. It was the way he came into it that bowled me over: he simply asked for it as I recall.

Arthur Brandon (Milo) contends that the Carnac turban (as we now know it) appeared after Milo & Roger's appearance on the Tonight Show. Milo, of course, wore an oversized, red, floppy turban.

Of course none of this--or what "Observer" quoted above--proves whether or not the Carnac turban once belonged to Alexander. Two things settle that question: One only needs to look at the many photos of Claude Conlin (Alexander) in costume and compare it to Carson's. They aren't even close. And finally, I have seen the Alexander turban. It's in the David Copperfield Collection.

observer
Posts: 260
Joined: August 31st, 2014, 5:32 am
Favorite Magician: Harry Kellar - Charlie Miller - Paul Rosini - Jay Marshall
Location: Chicago

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby observer » April 2nd, 2016, 1:20 pm

None of what I posted was intended to "prove" that the Carnak turban is the Alexander turban. In fact, after reading your somewhat laconic response I did an image search; the turban in the iconic "Man Who Knows" litho is clearly quite different from the one Carson wore. A bit disappointing, cause I always liked the notion of Carnak's turban having such a history. So I thought I'd search around for info on the Carnak turban & found something that looked interesting enough to post - including the information that the person who now owns it got it by just asking.
Yours truly,
"Observer"

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » April 2nd, 2016, 2:17 pm

Here's the article that Dustin referenced:

http://www.museumoftv.org/American%20Way%20Magazine.pdf
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » May 3rd, 2016, 2:27 am

After something of a pause in magic (not counting a couple appearances of Carnac the Magnificent), James Randi is scheduled to be on the Carson rerun this Friday (May 6). Check your local listings.

Bill Mullins
Posts: 4367
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Huntsville, AL

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Bill Mullins » May 3rd, 2016, 8:45 am

Doug Thornton wrote:Here's the article that Dustin referenced:

http://www.museumoftv.org/American%20Way%20Magazine.pdf


Odd that Comisar has Archie and Edith Bunker's chairs -- I remember seeing them in another collection of note.

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » August 22nd, 2016, 11:02 pm

Last minute update:

Harry Anderson is on tonight !
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » August 28th, 2016, 11:14 pm

Coach Lou Holtz performed Gene Anderson's newspaper tear tonight. If you missed it, it's repeated @ 1:30 AM eastern time.

(And stay tuned if you wish for the lingerie fashion show.)
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly

User avatar
MaxNY
Posts: 1335
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Jeff McBride
Location: Warwick, New York
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby MaxNY » September 23rd, 2016, 8:58 am

If you missed it, Harmon Baker was on this week and performed a Newspaper (Page) Tear and Restoration with reveal, and twist ending.

JFox
Posts: 165
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Hollywood, Ca. USA

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby JFox » September 28th, 2016, 1:18 pm

Last night (Sept. 27), Johnny's guest was 4 year old child actor Miko Hughes (a 1991 episode).

Miko talked about going to the Magic Castle, and being startled upon seeing a "witch's hand, with balls between the fingers, emerging from the wall, towards him" (he was referring to a spooky framed hologram of a hand with the multiplying balls, that is still on display).

More importantly, Johnny did a nice "3 coins from purse frame production", and immediately repeated it by producing one more coin.

As Miko examined the purse frame and tried to produce coins for himself, Johnny quipped: "If he pulls anything out of there, I quit!".

I try to watch these repeats as often as I can, and one never knows when Johnny will interject a conversation about "Magic" and/or about the "Magic Castle", while talking to guests. He often does.

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » March 6th, 2017, 7:55 pm

It's been a while that I've been able to tell you to set your DVR: Michael Ammar on the "Here's Johnny" rerun on the March 9 airing (Antenna TV, check your local listings).

Bill Mullins
Posts: 4367
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Huntsville, AL

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Bill Mullins » March 30th, 2017, 10:32 pm

Tonight's rerun had Dick Cavett, who suspended a cane on his flat, vertical palm.

JFox
Posts: 165
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Location: Hollywood, Ca. USA

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby JFox » March 31st, 2017, 2:06 pm

Antenna-TV/Carson Productions have been re-broadcasting the same "repeats" that they had aired all last year.

....great if you missed them the first time, but there are so many, many, many more performances that I hope will be shown again.

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » March 31st, 2017, 7:42 pm

There have been about 3 - 6 "new" reruns each month. I wish Antenna TV would list the details. I contacted them through Facebook but they weren't helpful.
Yes, there are certainly many more episodes but I'm guessing Antenna TV has a small allotment.
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly

User avatar
Dustin Stinett
Posts: 6741
Joined: July 22nd, 2001, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: Sometimes
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Dustin Stinett » March 31st, 2017, 7:45 pm

Unless there are other details you want, here's the episode guide:
http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tv/johnny-c ... =antennatv

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » March 31st, 2017, 9:36 pm

By "details," I was referring to which 2017 Carson broadcasts are ones that weren't broadcast in 2016. (Nevertheless, the link to the episode guide is most welcome and handy.)
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly

User avatar
Doug Thornton
Posts: 473
Joined: January 18th, 2008, 12:00 pm
Favorite Magician: David Copperfield, Penn & Teller, Harry Anderson, Derren Brown, Mac King
Location: Gorgeous New Jersey USA
Contact:

Re: More Johnny Carson Notes (set the DVR!)

Postby Doug Thornton » April 1st, 2017, 12:27 pm

Schedule for April 1 to 13: all "repeats" except for:
April 9 (9/27/84)
April 10 (7/24/91)
April 11 (2/23/84)
Smiles all around
http://www.sam161.org/
SAM 161 - The David Copperfield Assembly


Return to “Buzz”