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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 1:25 pm
by Joe Mckay
Ok - back from work now. Had a chance to look up the age of this magician when he died.
And it is probably not him since he died at 80 and thus I am guessing didn't 'die prematurely' as Richard mentioned in his tease.
I officially have no idea who this is!
Joe
PS My guess was Bob Stencel.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 2:05 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Someone else is doing Stencel, not me. Lips sealed.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 2:07 pm
by Smurf
How about Tim Connover? (probably not famous enough)
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 2:09 pm
by Pete McCabe
Joe Mckay wrote:The second to last letter of his surname was spelled with an 'e'. Yet - I often often saw it incorrectly spelled with an 'i'.
Is it Slydeni?
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 2:10 pm
by Joe Mckay
I don't think it will be Tim. Eric Mead is working on that book and he says it won't be ready for at least a couple of years.
Joe
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 2:36 pm
by El Mystico
I'm delighted there will be a book on Tim.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 3:14 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Not Conover (the family is publishing that).
Not Slydini (I wish!).
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 4:28 pm
by Tom Gilbert
Skinner?
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 4:47 pm
by AJM
Mewis?
Oh no, he's still alive, sorry...
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 5:02 pm
by Bill Marquardt
Tommy Wonder, I wonder?
The suspense is killing me.
Okay, it's not Carl Ballantine. Let's start from there.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 6:28 pm
by RMajor
Sicher?
No, not famous enough. Could be Skinner.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 12:24 pm
by Bill Mullins
Tony Giorgio
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 1:23 pm
by Ian Kendall
Much as a collection of Tony's work would be welcome, I'm not sure he fits in with the 'died early' data...
Since it's not a book, I'm going with a holographic 'Pepper's Ghost' version of Vernon that you set up in your study and it shouts at you that you are flashing...
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 1:47 pm
by Joe Mckay
Looy Simonoff? Would be great to see more from him.
But it probably isn't him since he was quite old when he died.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 7:27 pm
by Bob Farmer
I like Ian's idea -- in fact I'm sure some wag could cobble together some Vernon footage/audio where he makes various criticisms. This could be an app -- Vernon humiliates you. You would play it as you worked on a trick.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 7:40 pm
by Richard Kaufman
It's not Giorgio. I published all of his best magic routines, with the exception of his three-card monte, in his special issue of Genii.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 11:01 pm
by Pete McCabe
So you do not deny the Vernon Humiliation app? Interesting.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 7th, 2013, 11:33 pm
by Richard Kaufman
I've been tongue-lashed by Vernon, so no thanks.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 1:06 am
by Pete McCabe
Would you deny me the same pleasure?
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 1:39 am
by Richard Kaufman
You bet.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 10:13 am
by Pete McCabe
All right, but the next time we meet, you owe me a torrent of verbal abuse. In the interest of fairness, you should wait until I show you a trick.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 10:17 am
by erdnasephile
Was there ever a good magician who spent time with Vernon that he didn't tongue-lash?
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 11:53 am
by erdnasephile
BTW, that wasn't meant to be a rehetorical, snarky question. I was asking because from what I've read, he was reputed to be a tough critic of pretty much everyone. I was just curious if anyone in particular seemed to get less of the business.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 11:54 am
by Charles Spector
I'll take a shot: The Bruce Cervon videos. Not that Richard is going to give in with a right guess...
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 11:59 am
by Richard Kaufman
Not Cervon.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 12:17 pm
by erdnasephile
Man, that would be cool!
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 12:19 pm
by Ian Kendall
I still think the Vernonator would be a good app to develop...might have to give David Ben a call.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 12:35 pm
by RMajor
Perhaps a Skinner project with Hahne Magic?
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 2:25 pm
by skmayhew
Busby!
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 3:48 pm
by Richard Kaufman
Nothing with Hahne Magic.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 5:25 pm
by Bill Mullins
Richard Kaufman wrote:It's not Giorgio. I published all of his best magic routines, with the exception of his three-card monte, in his special issue of Genii.
So publish his monte routine then.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 7:18 pm
by Richard Kaufman
He put it out as a booklet and his wife still sells it.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 7:34 pm
by Jim Martin
I purchased my copy from Byron Walker:
http://www.byronwalkermagicbooks.com/gambling.html
(toward the bottom of the page)
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 8th, 2013, 8:02 pm
by Bill Mullins
Ah. Thanks.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 9th, 2013, 12:19 am
by Richard Hatch
The Giorgio monograph on his Monte routine is also listed as in stock at my old company, H & R Magic Books:
http://www.magicbookshop.com/product_in ... s_id=15000
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 9th, 2013, 12:44 am
by Shaun
It's Jennings Takes It Easy! Yay.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 9th, 2013, 1:52 am
by Richard Kaufman
I wish. Actually did a day's work on Jennings recently, but no, that's not it.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 9th, 2013, 1:56 am
by Max Maven
erdnasephile wrote:Was there ever a good magician who spent time with Vernon that he didn't tongue-lash?
The Professor was willing and able to criticize when he saw fit. But, it was rarely as abusive as people now imagine.
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 9th, 2013, 2:52 am
by Shaun
Richard Kaufman wrote:I wish. Actually did a day's work on Jennings recently, but no, that's not it.
I can't wait though Richard, It's gonna be epic!
Re: Announcement of a Secret Project
Posted: January 9th, 2013, 4:38 am
by Ian Kendall
Giorgio showed me his monte when I visited him, and I still have the cards he used. His move was unbelievable to see, even from a couple of feet away; the top card seems to melt through. I can only imagine what it was like in his prime...