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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 13th, 2013, 12:07 pm

There's no point in putting out a project if you can't make it sell. Since I don't put out crap, I am happy to use any method at my disposal to create interest and get the word out.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Chris Aguilar » January 13th, 2013, 12:19 pm

A subscription based wiki (or mobile app) that combines text/video/social features? All based on the work of one individual.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 13th, 2013, 12:31 pm

Something that sophisticated would prevent anyone who doesn't have a fancy device from accessing the material.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Pete McCabe » January 13th, 2013, 4:43 pm

So nothing web-based? Or did I read that wrong?

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Joe Mckay » January 13th, 2013, 5:01 pm

It could be web-based (since nearly everyone has access to the internet). But maybe not linked to any specific device, such as an iPad.

That is how I read that.

Another guess...

Scotty York.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Shazzbatt » January 13th, 2013, 5:16 pm

Fred Kaps

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Joe Mckay » January 13th, 2013, 5:38 pm

Fred Kaps. Good one, Martin. The best guess I have heard so far.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 13th, 2013, 8:01 pm

No--not web based. Too ephemeral. Might vanish one day. You'll be able to hold it in your hands, but access it in modern ways.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Pete McCabe » January 13th, 2013, 8:57 pm

Fred Kaps is a great guess.

A while back I copied four VHS tapes of various Fred Kaps things for Pete Biro, who was donating them to the Castle Library. TV Appearances in multiple languages. There were some homemade trick performance/explanation videos; I don't know if they were released commercially. My favorite is a wonderful home movie of Fred performing for Brother John Hamman. I don't know if there's more, but there's definitely some.

Is the product going to be released on a USB drive? They have those credit-card sized flash drives like that French thing recently.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby erdnasephile » January 13th, 2013, 9:11 pm

I suspect that if it were Kaps, RK wouldn't have referred to him as a famous "close-up magician", since Kaps was one of the greatest general practitioners ever. (I would be happy to be wrong, however).

PS: I thought Mike Caveney was going to do a book on Kaps, right?

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 13th, 2013, 9:55 pm

Not a USB drive: much too limiting for some people.

Dick Kornwinder was supposed to prepare a Kaps book for Mike Caveney. It hasn't happened and it's been at least a decade, perhaps more.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Ted M » January 14th, 2013, 9:53 am

Have you secretly killed Ricky Jay, with intent to publish his oeuvre?

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Matt B » January 14th, 2013, 12:25 pm

I'll throw a "wishful thinking" guess out there.

I'll go with Pepe Carrol.

FISM 1st and 2nd place winner. Only published 2 small books. Died of a heart attack before age 50.

Internationally he was very popular; I just don't know how popular he was in the US....don't even know if that matters

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby erdnasephile » January 14th, 2013, 4:23 pm

Here is a summary of the (non-joking) guesses so far and why some may not seem to fit the criteria:

Specifically denied by RK:
Bruce Cervon
Tony Giorgio
Geoff Latta
Bob Read
Tony Slydini
Irv Weiner

Someone already doing a book/project on them:
Tim Connover
Fred Kaps
Geoff Latta
Bob Stencel

Not primarily known as a close-up magician:
Doug Henning
Fred Kaps

Maybe not famous enough:
Jack Birnman
Jose Carrol
Gene Maze
Gary Ouellet
Steve Pressley
Marc Sicher
Looy Simonoff

Did not die really young:
Jimmy Grippo
Charlie Miller

Did not die:
Gary Plants
Terry LaGerould


Here's who is left from this thread:
Derek Dingle
Michael Skinner
JC Wagner
Scotty York

I suspect Skinner or Dingle (in the conservatory with the lead pipe).

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Ted M » January 14th, 2013, 4:35 pm

Love the summary.

Can Dingle really be considered under-published, considering that RK wrote his "Complete Works"?

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Marco Pusterla » January 14th, 2013, 4:48 pm

David Alexander?
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 14th, 2013, 5:36 pm

Not David Alexander. That would be a book, and a large one, but I don't think he left enough written to make it happen. This is why I included his watch steal routine from Magicana in the 75th anniversary issue--as a remembrance.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Pete McCabe » January 14th, 2013, 6:13 pm

Dingle's complete works was published 1982 and he died in 2004, so there might well be a lot of unpublished material.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 14th, 2013, 6:54 pm

There is very little unpublished material of Dingle's--a handful of items which Stan Willis will be releasing as a series very shortly.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby oskar » January 14th, 2013, 7:26 pm

Jose Carroll (Pepe) was who I was alluding to when I wrote this:-

"I would say that this person went under another name whose namesake starred in a number of Warner Bros movies. He had a close confidant who was something of a 'violinist'."

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 14th, 2013, 7:35 pm

I really don't know much about Pepe Carroll, other than that he was supposed to be very very good.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 14th, 2013, 9:20 pm

Yes.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby erdnasephile » January 14th, 2013, 10:29 pm

Could it be Eddie Fechter? He was only 63 when he passed. His influence in close-up magic certainly extended well beyond his amount of published material. (I'm not sure if he had enough unpublished stuff to fit the description of a "BIG" project).

Ditto, Mike Rogers.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Shaun » January 14th, 2013, 10:38 pm

Michael Jackson? He liked magic!

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby David Oliver » January 14th, 2013, 10:40 pm

Hmmmm. I have living relatives, and, well, I'm not dead yet...
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Dustin Stinett » January 14th, 2013, 11:14 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:Not David Alexander. That would be a book, and a large one, but I don't think he left enough written to make it happen.

Based on conversations I had with him, I believe David wrote down quite a bit of his material, but it was given only to his students and other professionals with whom he would trade material. He was very reticent about sharing his work with the general magic population. I suspect that his widow would honor that.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 15th, 2013, 1:49 am

He did plan to write a book eventually, after the book on Silouhettes and the book on Frakson.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby AJM » January 15th, 2013, 2:10 am

Richard

Is it Michael Skinner?

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Postby Marco Pusterla » January 15th, 2013, 3:08 am

Richard Kaufman wrote:I really don't know much about Pepe Carroll, other than that he was supposed to be very very good.


A large book on the magic of Pepe Carroll was published, in Spanish, a few years back. It contains the text from both his "52 lovers" books, interviews and theoretical essays, other material he published on magazines and some unpublished effects, including the routine with which Carroll won first prize at FISM 1988
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Edward Pungot » January 15th, 2013, 9:55 am

Tommy Wonder would be nice.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 15th, 2013, 10:45 am

Between the Books of Wonder by Tommy and Stephen Minch, and the L&L DVDs, which I believe Max Maven directed, Tommy is amply covered.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby jean-pierre » January 15th, 2013, 4:38 pm

First of all, sorry for my english! Two men was not mentioned. The first published a small sample of material which is classic now. Her notes was given to someone who never published it. It's Henry Christ.
The second published a first book "versatile card magic". His second book burst before publication. Perhaps like the phoenix the new Frank simon handwritten will reborn...

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 15th, 2013, 5:03 pm

Not Henry Christ; Persi Diaconis has those notebooks.

Frank Simon's second book got lost when his apartment was burglarized after he had his stroke.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Dustin Stinett » January 15th, 2013, 8:56 pm

If you are a Genii subscriber, you now know the answer. And I hope we all keep the secret from those whofor reasons passing understandingdo not! Keep 'em guessing!

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Postby Joji Matsuo » January 15th, 2013, 9:59 pm

Feels nice to finally know.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Evan Shuster » January 15th, 2013, 10:48 pm

GREAT news! I am REALLY looking forward to this.

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 15th, 2013, 11:04 pm

I think it will be something special.
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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Q. Kumber » January 16th, 2013, 8:52 am

So I was right, it is Adelaide Hermann. :D

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Pete McCabe » January 16th, 2013, 10:53 am

I'm a subscriber and I've downloaded the digital issue, but I still don't know. Is the announcement on page 3? Because that page didn't download somehow.

Also, shouldn't I be able to see the current issue on Ask Alexander? The most recent issue there is May 2012. (And February and April 2012 are missing.)

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Re: Announcement of a Secret Project

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 16th, 2013, 11:06 am

No, the announcement is in the Genii Speaks video.

The issues in the regular Ask Alexander databank lag behind, however you can see ALL the recent issues going back to the January 2010 issue in the archive folder on the digital page. (You might read the instructions.)
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