Dustin Stinett wrote:It doesn't matter where they are from. They have no choice but to obey the laws of this country and each state if they want to conduct business here.
Tell that to The Pirate Bay.
Dustin Stinett wrote:It doesn't matter where they are from. They have no choice but to obey the laws of this country and each state if they want to conduct business here.
mrgoat wrote:Tell that to The Pirate Bay.
mrgoat wrote:Their hosting is in the US
Marco Pusterla wrote:mrgoat wrote:Their hosting is in the US
Indeed... Utah :) . But Bluehost is just a hosting provider... it has nothing to do with RealSecrets other than renting them web space for as little as $6.95/month.
Richard Kaufman wrote:Dustin, did you read the article at the first link Kosnitzky posted? I believe it states that there are NO laws against auto-renewal, but that this case (which was joined by many states) changed the way Time Inc. did business and forced them to repay money to lots of folks.
Smurf wrote: why all the fuss about cancelling autorenewal now?
Richard Kaufman wrote:Re the notice in Life Savers, it hasn't stopped anyone from performing the material and has never been enforced that I'm aware of.
Smurf wrote:why all the fuss about cancelling autorenewal now?
Tom Dobrowolski wrote:The thing that is disappointing is is for me in all of this is Murphy's Magic involvement. They're taking money out of the pockets of brick and mortar magic shops. First L&L now Murphy's. Many b&m dealers are holding on by their fingertips. This type of "marketing" by the largest magic supplier in the world could be the final nail in the coffin to many of these dealers who can't compete with something like this. Very disappointing. I won't support it.
Richard Kaufman wrote:...."On a final note, even you, Mr. Kaufman, will need to reactivate the auto renewal option if you would like your application for membership to be valid."
Pete McCabe wrote:In the case of Time magazine, wasn't the problem that they automatically renewed people's subscriptions without ever notifying them that they were going to? If so, that wouldn't apply here, as the autorenew is stated up front.
Dustin Stinett wrote:Tom Dobrowolski wrote:The thing that is disappointing is is for me in all of this is Murphy's Magic involvement. They're taking money out of the pockets of brick and mortar magic shops. First L&L now Murphy's. Many b&m dealers are holding on by their fingertips. This type of "marketing" by the largest magic supplier in the world could be the final nail in the coffin to many of these dealers who can't compete with something like this. Very disappointing. I won't support it.
Is there any evidence that Murphys is involved (versus just one of their employees)?
While I was at the Castle yesterday, there was an impromptu roundtable talk in the library between about six people about this. One gentleman had an interesting take that would remove this heat from Murphys: He theorizes that the effects that will be a part of this service are the kind that would be too easily knocked off should they be marketed as single effects. So, in this way, Murphysif they are indeed involvedis protecting the creators of magic. This assures that they will continue to create material that can be manufactured and marketed for shops to sell.
Dustin
Richard Kaufman wrote:"auto-renewing isn't slightly illegal. the adult industry almost relies on it nowadays."
Damian, if that's the case, how do you explain the result of the lawsuit brought by all those states against Time, Inc.?
Jeff Eline wrote:****
Damian: Do the adult paysites give the option of a non-recurring billing? Maybe at a slightly higher rate? I know other subscription sites I've signed up for do that.