Penn and Teller - UK TV special

[John Archer]

Apparently P & T are coming over here to film a special in December...

http://www.hcms.org.uk/index.php/news/9 ... -call.html

I don't think we have anyone who can fool them?

John :-)

[mrgoat]

Interesting premise, but surely a next to impossible task. To *fool* Teller would require either huge audacity and a ridiculously bold bit of luck, or ridiculously clever thinking. Penn is (imho) a loud mouthed juggler and not a magician, but Teller knows his onions.

Shame it is on ITV though, I detest that channel so much I had it surgically removed.

[Joe Mckay]

Firstly - I hate ITV as well...

Secondly - I wonder if ITV are trying to come up with a magic show to run against the BBC'S 'MAGICIANS' show which is starting in Jan/Feb of next year? Similar things have happened before - on Saturday nights - when they have ran dancing shows against each other - and when they have ran music contests against each other as well...

Joe

[mrgoat]

Oh yes, seems obvious now you've pointed it out.

[Max Maven]

mrgoat writes: [color:#000099]Interesting premise, but surely a next to impossible task. To *fool* Teller would require either huge audacity and a ridiculously bold bit of luck, or ridiculously clever thinking. [/color]

I think the premise is rather stupid. That said, fooling anyone is hardly "next to impossible" -- Teller is wise and observant, but (the last time I checked) human...

[Joe Mckay]

I can fool Teller about 2% of the time with my unique take on the 'Any Card At Any Number' plot.

Shuffled, borrowed deck and everything. Looks amazing...

Joe

[Richard Kaufman]

Almost any human can be misdirected if the performer is skillful enough.

[mrgoat]

Fair point Mr Maven. I meant, that from what I understand, Teller, like your good self, has a very thorough and varied knowledge of magic hence would be hard to "fool". Although, in hindsight, of course you are right. Humanity is the downfall of humanity.

[Richard Kaufman]

I'm happy to say that I fooled Max exactly once. I used a gimmicked card and it took him about ten seconds to realize it. But I loved the hell out of that ten seconds because he had a look of surprise on his face that is rarely seen by humans.

[Robert Allen]

The sense of wonder when being "fooled" is truly a wonderful thing. I remember the first time I saw Michael Close perform close up. Awesome.

[John Archer]

Interesting points made but is misdirecting someone the same as fooling them? I could be misdirected during a card under glass routine but I don't think I'd be fooled. I would realise that I just hadn't seen the magician palm and load the card under the glass as I had looked at the wrong thing at the wrong time. If I hadn't moved and I discover that I am now sat on my signed card then I may be fooled, providing I wasn't pulled out of my seat at any point etc.

John

[Richard Kaufman]

With someone as sophisticated as Teller, I don't think it's possible to fool him without misdirection playing a major part.