Looking for all published info on Card Warp

[Brad Henderson]

Not sure we got an answer to this one - the Cross Twist is a card warp type effect? Also the Kaufman item where a card actually turns inside out? What do you think? Is it the fold that distinguishes this trick?

If you consider the bizarre or cros twist tricks to be "warps" then I think you would have to call any of the Twisting the aces and especially their visual variants "warps."

Tunnel tricks where the cards reverse as they pass through the deck?

[Bill Duncan]

I don't think they're in the same class. In a tunnel the card only turns 180 degrees. When the card is folded in half it's effectively 360 degrees.

[Jeff Pierce Magic]

Roy said to me that in order to be considered a warp effect, the carp cannot simply turn over whether pushed thru a tunnel or whatever. I'm of the belief that the card must be folded for the cardwarp effect to take place.

Jeff Pierce

[Jonathan Townsend]

Jeff, what's your feeling about Kaufman's item where a card goes literally inside out - where you wind up with the grey layers on the outside?

[Edwin Corrie]

Jonathan, Philippe asked about the "Kaufman item" but you haven't told us what it is. It sounds like Ben Harris' "Dimensional Relativity", and the concept seems to me to be quite different from Card Warp.

[Jonathan Townsend]

? folks don't remember that item? Cardmagic as I recall. Will look it up when i get home later if folks here don't have the citation.

[Jeff Pierce Magic]

Jonathan I'm not familiar with the Kaufman idea but I suppose in the right situation it could be concidered in the same family.

Jeff

[Philippe Billot]

In Cardmagic, the only reversal by Kaufman is :

The World's Fastest Reverse, page 35 & 38.

But no relation with Card Warp.

[Edwin Corrie]

Maybe Fusion in "Cardworks"? That's two cards apparently fused together face to face though with backs showing, so maybe not.

[Jonathan Townsend]

Hmmm - I can't get to my library (down in Queens) but I recall seeing a gaff made where you split two cards and rejoin them so the outside layers (that grey stuff) are on the outside.

Now if what I'm remembering is my own stuff from way back when ... it's mine and you are free to go have fun with it - but I recall it being in one of the early Kaufman books and one that was out before I went back to college so that's upper bound of four years after that great Don England binder book on red paper with the custom gaffs (thanks Don).

[Steve Hook]

You're slippin', Townsend.

Only 19 (!) posts so far TODAY.

;-)

[Dustin Stinett]

Yeah, Steve, and you took the time to count them! ;)

[Philippe Billot]

In Cardworks (1981), it's a version of Card Tunnel by Schwarzman & Krenzel. See The Original Card Tunnel, page 99, and The Amazing Ace Tunnel by Kaufman, page 113.
Page 119, another version entitled Ace Tunnel: Second Position (with a gimmick) by Kaufman, Krenzel & Arthur.

[Denis Behr]

Hmmm - I can't get to my library (down in Queens) but I recall seeing a gaff made where you split two cards and rejoin them so the outside layers (that grey stuff) are on the outside.

Hm, I cannot recall that, but in Cardworks there are effects in which two cards are openly fused into a double backer and then split again, see here.

[Ian Kendall]

Ben Harris has a routine called Dimentional Relativity that involved cards turning inside out. If it's not in the backstory yet, I imagine it will be soon.

Ian

[Paul Gordon]

Apocalypse contains few handlings. Star Warp by Howie Schwarzman? And, Martin Cox (from UK) has a popular version...

PG

[Jeff Pierce Magic]

Paul, I have both of those versions in the book. MArtin's is indeed interesting.

Jeff Pierce

[Philippe Billot]

The Weirdling by Michael Weber in Paul Harris' True Astonishment Box Set, DVD 4.

and

Stapled Warp by Andrew Gerard

[Robert Meisch]

So Jeff,Any idea when might we see this book? I'm not trying to pin you down but I am really excited about your project. Later this Year, early next, 2012?

I love this effect and having all the different version colllected in one volume will be great. I can't wait.

Just asking.

Robert Meisch

[Jonathan Townsend]

... Stapled Warp by Andrew Gerard

Citation please.

Also what about the one where you make a hole in the tunnel card and they see nothing as the warp happens?

[Richard Hatch]

Also what about the one where you make a hole in the tunnel card and they see nothing as the warp happens?

That would be Tyler Wilson's version, which is in his DOMINATRICKS book.

[Joe Mckay]

Hey Jeff,

I have a card warp effect called THE CONTORTIONIST. It is a small manuscript describing MICHAEL GILES's effect and written by Stacy Jones. It came out in 1995 and was published by 'MAGICAL ENCOUNTERS PRESENTS...'

If you want it I can send you my copy. Just get in touch with an address...

All the best,

Joe

[Philippe Billot]

... Stapled Warp by Andrew Gerard

Citation please.

Sorry, it's in the same DVD

[Gerald Deutsch]

Bob McAllister has a version with a card and a dollar bill in Apocalypse January 1983 (page 721) and there is a version also with a card and a bill in Richard's Almanac #13 - September 1983 by Bob and with a variation by Tony Miller.

[Richard Kaufman]

McAllister was the first person to replace the outer card with a bill.

[Ian Kendall]

Ah, Volume two, issue one. The best of the bunch.

/nostalgia

[Philippe Billot]

More accurately : vol. 2, no. 13, september 1984, page 113, Greenwarp by Bob McAllister and page 117 Billtration by Tony Miller.

[Richard Kaufman]

The effect "Billtration" was actually created by Scott Robinson.

[Jonathan Townsend]

Same trick, a variation, reinvention?

[Richard Kaufman]

No: stolen. This is discussed at length in the introduction to The Collected Almanac.

[Ian Kendall]

Really? I was sure it was issue one pof volume 2.

Just checked - issue 13 September 1983.

Ian

[Jonathan Townsend]

:( ouch.

While you're with us on this thread, I recall an inside out card - with the grey stuff on the outside - as used in a tunnel/warp trick in one of your early works. Would you happen to recall that item? I'd like to give credit to whoever thought to split a card and invert the layers.

thanks in adavnce,

Jon

[Richard Kaufman]

Issue one of volume 2 IS issue 13. The issues were numbered consecutively over the course of the three volumes.

Jon, there is no inside-out card per se in any of my published works. No gray layers on the outside. I published a trick called "The Inside Out Deck" in CardWorks, which is a handling of All Backs that incorporates my idea of splitting double-backed cards openly in front of the audience--in this case to reveal the four Aces, making it a version of the Elmsley All Backs routine which used real double-faced cards.

[Philippe Billot]

Right! 1983.

I'm so sorry...

[Jonathan Townsend]

Thanks Richard.

Any prior claims on the (mis)use of the gaffs for Ken Krenzel's transposition - in Apocalypse - as a finale for cardwarp? IE you tear the cards and leave them with impossible half/half transposed. For completeness you start with an extra layer on half the warp/torn card - lightly waxed.

[Richard Kaufman]

I am unfamiliar with the item of Ken's you mention.

[Jonathan Townsend]

That's Ken's gaffed two card transpo with two split face cards, one horizontal split and the other vertical. Put them in card warp position (cringe if handmade) and fold - then tear to show shocking half transpo. ;)

[Philippe Billot]

Transcendental Transpo in Apocalypse, vol. 3, no. 3, March 1980, page 313.

[Jonathan Townsend]

Thanks Philippe.

Bit expensive approach but when it comes to impressing a customer ...

It's okay to publish that with the waxed on layer Jeff. Yes you have to be cozy with the two card spread before you fold the tunnel card and yes I know that means you can't open the tunnel for one of the displays folks sometimes like to do (well unless you go the misprint using spot cards route ;) ) IMHO it's a small step from Ken's item to that - with the cleanup of the extra bit so tiny at the end (crumple after you slide off) that almost all "credit" goes to Ken Krenzel and a thanks to Harry Lorayne.

Anyone doing the warp where the card turns inside out around a borrowed ring or coin?

[Tom Frame]

I was really looking forward to this compilation. What ever became of the project? Jeff?