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Re: ERDNASE

John, I think this is a very good point. Being able to demonstrate a move for an illustrator and actually using a move under fire are two entirely different things. He invented most of the moves Chris (and John) ... think about that for a second. Not necessarily. He just published them. But let's s...
by JHostler
11/12/14 08:15 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

... similarities in the the style and content of EATCT's "Preface" versus those of other Drake publications (when Drake purportedly played no role in the book's development). This is interesting and something I don't remember seeing. Do you have any examples of these other Drake prefaces ...
by JHostler
11/12/14 07:44 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

Some thoughts (and please don't take this as "tomato hurling") If it was a "house job" by Drake, why did they not publish it as a Drake imprint? Why did they apply for copyright in the name of "Erdnase"? (And were such statements made under penalty of perjury?) Is ther...
by JHostler
11/12/14 06:29 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

Just a quick thought on all the speculation concerning how much time it would have taken "Erdnase" (if there was such a fellow) to master the material contained in EATCT: What evidence suggests "he" had mastered it all? First, a successful cheat would never require so many "...
by JHostler
11/12/14 05:23 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

Roger M. - Your entire Erdnase "worldview" - like that of many others - is based on an unproven assumption: that there was but a single primary author. M.D. Smith has informed us that he sat down in a Chicago hotel room with the sole author, S.W. Erdnase and drew a few pictures of his han...
by JHostler
11/12/14 08:01 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

Roger M. - Your entire Erdnase "worldview" - like that of many others - is based on an unproven assumption: that there was but a single primary author. And how can you be 100% certain that Roterberg played absolutely no role when there's so little to be certain about across the board ? Jon...
by JHostler
11/11/14 10:39 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

Tossing specific names into the ring with absolutely no evidence to support them seems completely counterproductive. Once you remove the need to actually provide evidence in support of a specific candidate, and further to make that evidence of some substance , the search deteriorates into a pointle...
by JHostler
11/11/14 08:09 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

Assumption 4: The author's reference(s) to "we" mean something. Do you think that we could refer to a single author and the illustrator? No - not in context. To wit: Works on conjuring invariably devote much space to the consideration of card tricks, and many have been written exclusively...
by JHostler
11/10/14 10:48 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: ERDNASE

In the spirit of Marlo, Randi, and Ockham (for very different reasons), the time seems right to introduce a competing, radically different, and not nearly as interesting Erdnase theory. Assumption 1: Your typical gambler would neither know nor need to know 90% of EATCT's contents to obtain a suffici...
by JHostler
11/10/14 10:18 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2985
Views: 1364131

Re: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please

So, because I as an Asian person don't enjoy being mocked, I'm somehow less sophisticated, have worse taste, and have more lagging expectations than the general public? You need to re-read my post. I more or less said the exact opposite. (In this case, Hobson's act lags certain public sensitivities...
by JHostler
11/09/14 12:38 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please
Replies: 139
Views: 11274

Re: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please

Tom is exactly right. Matt Field Tom is only half right. Generally speaking, OF COURSE societal norms dictate that some things shouldn't "automatically be lauded and praised as something good and worthwhile." That's a given, not some sort of ethical revelation. That said, who specifically...
by JHostler
11/09/14 11:08 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please
Replies: 139
Views: 11274

Re: Identity of this

Hobson also used to (or still does) a racist Asian impersonation that made me want vomit at the first Magic Live. Tom Stone's comments are right on the money. Stone wasn't commenting on the Asian act, nor was I in the post he responded to. Here's how it works: Hobson does his thing for money. When ...
by JHostler
11/08/14 07:49 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please
Replies: 139
Views: 11274

Re: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please

If Hobson is selling out and "we're" the only ones raising a huge stink, that says more about us than him. Yes, let's all display more of that kind of predatory sexuality in our acts. Let's make it a renaissance for the brassiere trick, and add more lewd remarks that just barely qualifies...
by JHostler
11/08/14 03:30 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please
Replies: 139
Views: 11274

Re: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please

Here's what's really offensive: Stage magicians who set the art back 30 years with embarrassing '80s-style dance routines. STOP DANCING.

If Hobson is selling out and "we're" the only ones raising a huge stink, that says more about us than him.
by JHostler
11/08/14 10:49 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Identity of this "Camp/Gay" magician please
Replies: 139
Views: 11274

Re: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card

MManchester wrote:I think JHostler was referring to the lack of naturalness in the presentation, not that the specific routine was performed by Vernon.


Bingo.
by JHostler
11/02/14 09:47 PM
 
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card
Replies: 44
Views: 2456

Re: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card

Why do the same trick eight times in rapid succession? If you think eight is to many, then you might prefer Eric Decamps' Jokers are Wild , which has only six transformations. Lacking the proper motivation, six is still too many. Why? What's the point? To prove that it can be done more than once? Y...
by JHostler
11/02/14 07:14 PM
 
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card
Replies: 44
Views: 2456

Re: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card

Do you think that is a magician or layman's point of view? Why would I bother making that statement from a magician's point of view? Magicians tend to be more enamored with repetitive sequences than the folks they perform for. Why do the same trick eight times in rapid succession? That's a flaw inh...
by JHostler
11/02/14 10:20 AM
 
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card
Replies: 44
Views: 2456

Re: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card

After the first few changes, all I could think was "OK - I get it. I get it."

Pretty, but too darned repetitive.
by JHostler
11/02/14 08:41 AM
 
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: What Say You? JP Vallarino's Wild Card
Replies: 44
Views: 2456

Re: Missing Link by Alexander/Kohler

This is so silly. All legal owners of original copies of this routine have the right to perform this presentation ... OK... the performance script is protected by copyright. Fair enough. No one is permitted to manufacture, sell, teach, lecture, translate or otherwise use, demonstrate, display, vary,...
by JHostler
11/01/14 06:26 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Missing Link by Alexander/Kohler
Replies: 6
Views: 671

Horwitz Wallet & Looking Glass Mag

Some dude (that'd be me) just posted a near-mint Horwitz Wallet ($29.99) and the complete file of Looking Glass Magazine ($49.99) here: http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncledodo14/m.h ... 7675.l2562

John[dot]Hostler
by JHostler
10/31/14 07:47 PM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: Horwitz Wallet & Looking Glass Mag
Replies: 0
Views: 196

Re: Bob Cassidy Drunk Train Wreck

Matthew, No where does Mr. goat say he paid for the lecture. And it wasn't his opinion he was expressing. He copied and pasted one bad review from back in last january that someone else posted, of course completely ignoring the majority of positive reviews for the same lecture. Wasn't that review h...
by JHostler
10/18/14 09:05 AM
 
Forum: Link Watch
Topic: Bob Cassidy Drunk Train Wreck
Replies: 35
Views: 2495

LF: Louis Tannen Edition of The Jinx (51-100)

If anyone is looking to rid themselves of Louis Tannen's second bound volume of The Jinx (issues 51-100), please PM me with your best price.

Thanks,

John
by JHostler
09/27/14 05:58 PM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: LF: Louis Tannen Edition of The Jinx (51-100)
Replies: 0
Views: 244

Re: hank lee out of jail

Dustin, I'm not calling him a murderer but I am calling him a career criminal. The moral point was to counter some of comments here that imply that if you DON'T give him another chance, that you are somehow "puritanical" and an unforgiving person. No, Bill. No one said that. What I object...
by JHostler
09/24/14 03:05 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: hank lee out of jail
Replies: 69
Views: 5871

Re: hank lee out of jail

Everyone "steals" to one degree or another, in one form or another (time, taxes, Thanksgiving leftovers, etc.). Everyone does something to compromise trust at some point in their lifetime. Pretty much anyone who drives to work breaks the law on a daily basis. Good grief... who CAN you trus...
by JHostler
09/23/14 07:45 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: hank lee out of jail
Replies: 69
Views: 5871

Re: hank lee out of jail

billmccloskey wrote:Once trust is gone, it is gone.


Ummm... OK. [Insert snarky remark about living such a saintly life etc.]
by JHostler
09/23/14 03:28 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: hank lee out of jail
Replies: 69
Views: 5871

Re: hank lee out of jail

There seems to be a creepily unhealthy obsession with Hank Lee here. He's out. Who cares? If he deals again, no one is forcing you to buy. Regarding delayed orders etc. etc., he never struck me as significantly worse than the bulk of magic dealers (a decent percentage of whom could be fairly describ...
by JHostler
09/23/14 02:28 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: hank lee out of jail
Replies: 69
Views: 5871

Lot of 6 Books - Ibidem, Larry Jennings, Paul Harris, etc.

Lot of six books (posted here earlier) can now be found here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Magic-Books-Ibidem-Larry-Jennings-Paul-Harris-Bruce-Bernstein-etc-/171469743776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec64a6a0 Starting bid $59.99... Ibidem Vol. 3 / Aziz and Beyond by P. Howard Lyons, firs...
by JHostler
09/21/14 06:57 PM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: Lot of 6 Books - Ibidem, Larry Jennings, Paul Harris, etc.
Replies: 0
Views: 256

Re: Joan Rivers, RIP

I lost any connection I had with Joan Rivers when she slighted Johnny Carson by not simply asking him for his counsel before accepting the FOX show while being groomed to take over the Tonight Show. . Well, that depends on which story you believe. The other one (as told by Joan in her later years) ...
by JHostler
09/05/14 10:21 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Joan Rivers, RIP
Replies: 32
Views: 2981

Tricks by David Ben and Semi-Automatic Card Tricks Vol. 3

Semi-Automatic Card Tricks Vol. 3 by Steve Beam ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Semi-Automatic-Card-Tricks-Vol-3-by-Steve-Beam-/171416932796?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e93ed1bc ) and Tricks by David Ben ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tricks-by-David-Ben-Long-Out-of-Print-/171416968218?pt=LH_DefaultD...
by JHostler
08/16/14 04:24 PM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: Tricks by David Ben and Semi-Automatic Card Tricks Vol. 3
Replies: 0
Views: 237

Re: Phase 1, Phase 2, ....

OK - I'll play the cynic. First, a big YES to everything Richard just said. Second, with regard to script ... Motivation schmotivation. Audiences watch magic to be astonished... to be six years old again. They generally couldn't care less about 99% of the lame stories we concoct to "motivate&qu...
by JHostler
03/16/14 06:41 PM
 
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Phase 1, Phase 2, ....
Replies: 75
Views: 4524

Re: Wonderball

And that type of performer appeals to a much different audience than one leaning toward feast-or-famine improvisation and dynamic programming. I'd get my Wayne Newton fix in one shot (if that)... but I'd pay good money to see late 50's-era Miles Davis five nights straight. One problem is that magici...
by JHostler
03/06/14 04:43 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Wonderball
Replies: 123
Views: 9998

Re: Wonderball

But in magic we have taught our audiences, probably because of our misplaced values, that the method is more important than the ride. I'm not sure about this, but I am absolutely certain we've taught each other (implicitly, of course) that the method is more important. Mystery ("being fooled&q...
by JHostler
03/02/14 02:35 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Wonderball
Replies: 123
Views: 9998

Re: Wonderball

There's such a huge difference between "looking pretty" and "invoking a deep sense of mystery and astonishment." I've been battered for suggesting this before, but 99% of floating/levitation effects - no matter how well-done - fall more into the former category than the latter. I...
by JHostler
03/02/14 08:10 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Wonderball
Replies: 123
Views: 9998

Re: Do yourselves a favour

I just don’t get all this “I'm not sold on the Speed Loader wallet, so sell me” or “just shove the card into an ungaffed wallet” stuff or – particularly – the reference to Mike Skinner. First, Tony is under no obligation to prove anything. His demos are plenty transparent (read: fair). Any if you’re...
by JHostler
12/23/13 01:18 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Do yourselves a favour
Replies: 13
Views: 2565

Books by Doc Docherty, J.K. Hartman, Stephen Tucker, etc.

Small lot of five books up for auction, ending this evening... opening at $24.99: http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Book-Lot-Doc-Docherty-J-K-Hartman-Stephen-Tucker-Dan-Garrett-Annemann-/171164488836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27da32d484 Jerry (J.K.) Hartman - "Card Fare" (1980) 60 pages o...
by JHostler
11/03/13 12:31 PM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: Books by Doc Docherty, J.K. Hartman, Stephen Tucker, etc.
Replies: 0
Views: 258

Re: Dodgy magic photos

I'm with Craig - that photo makes me cringe. Beyond that, the concept itself is unnecessarily risky (though it might have played fine several decades ago).
by JHostler
10/07/13 04:44 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Dodgy magic photos
Replies: 44
Views: 5920

Re: John Rocks

Interesting... Jon Racherbaumer just sent a note about his new dating site, and Penguin Magic offered to help me "find myself." Had they offered to find my car keys, I might have bit.
by JHostler
09/27/13 06:16 PM
 
Forum: Link Watch
Topic: John Rocks
Replies: 6
Views: 1202

Re: $1,600 for a "Billscape" on eBay.

I have an "Ultimate Marked Deck" in like-new condition. Infinitely more versatile than Billscape, and also out of production. It's yours for the exact same price ($1600)! PM me if interested...
by JHostler
09/23/13 07:50 PM
 
Forum: Tenyo
Topic: $1,600 for a "Billscape" on eBay.
Replies: 10
Views: 768

Re: Whose Illusion is This? I think We All Know

I think we would probably all agree that if Gross' actions hurt DC in some way, then those actions would be unethical. However, what if Gross' actions helped DC? Are Gross' actions unethical then? For example, what if Gross' actions brought increased attention to DC's act and increased interest and...
by JHostler
09/18/13 06:35 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Whose Illusion is This? I think We All Know
Replies: 69
Views: 9570

Re: Whose Illusion is This? I think We All Know

I don't think the "damages" angle works on its own. Unless a temporary monopoly granted under intellectual property law has been violated, then any "damages" would simply be viewed as economic competition in a competitive marketplace. (Btw, let's keep Mr Farmer focused on writin...
by JHostler
09/18/13 01:35 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Whose Illusion is This? I think We All Know
Replies: 69
Views: 9570
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