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Re: Geller stoops to a new low

As long as the people giving you money know you are pretending, and they are good with that, then all is good. At a play, people pay knowing they are seeing people pretend to be other people. They suspend their disbelief for a couple of hours and have a good time. With Geller et al, they get money ...
by Magic Fred
03/25/14 01:49 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

What a stupidly defensive, condescending and impotent jibe. I have not simply "decided for everyone" anymore than those with whom I disagree have "decided for everyone." I have decided FOR MYSELF what good magic is and I am attempting, through argument and reason, to convince ot...
by Magic Fred
03/25/14 01:27 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

The difference between you and me, Magic Fred, is that you are trying to "win the argument". I am not. Oh I see, that's good. So you didn't offer your anecdote in support of Geller then? It was just a loosely-related aside? If this is the case then I agree wholeheartedly... For the record...
by Magic Fred
03/25/14 01:07 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

If anyone here ever takes the opportunity to give a sick child a Teddy bear with magical healing powers, I for one will not hold it against you. If you use it to get publicity for yourself in an outright assertion that you are putting positive energy in the teddy bear and genuinely claiming that th...
by Magic Fred
03/25/14 12:54 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

Every time somebody is called an "arsehole" for having a different option and definition of morality As far as I can see, I'm the only one using the word arsehole in this thread and your accusation is simply unwarranted and, frankly, ignorant and dismissive. I have stated that Uri Geller ...
by Magic Fred
03/25/14 11:47 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

I am so glad a handful here have decided for everyone else what it means to be a magician - a word which historically has NOT mean the same as CONJURER. What a stupidly defensive, condescending and impotent jibe. I have not simply "decided for everyone" anymore than those with whom I disa...
by Magic Fred
03/25/14 02:43 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

I don't know if Brad is missing the point and avoiding the pertinent questions intentionally or not. It is being argued that Geller is NOT a great magician, not because he is not good at what he does but because what he is doing is not the mark of a great magician. A great charlatan and fraudster? P...
by Magic Fred
03/24/14 07:24 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

I don't think anybody was arguing that Geller isn't great at what he does. The argument is about what he does. Surely, Charles Manson is rather good at what he does too? No? I'm perfectly happy to declare that Geller is good at what he does. My objection is against him being labelled as a "grea...
by Magic Fred
03/24/14 05:49 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

I quick review of your link indicates that he tries to help people realize that their own mind can help heal themselves. Something well supported by experts. Now you're REACHING. You really must WANT for him not to sound like a complete arse. If you really want it, if you really believe it, here Ge...
by Magic Fred
03/24/14 04:27 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

we are on the same page here JT I just was commenting that 'if only' magicians would judge on levels beyond 'I didn't see his pass' or 'I don't know how he did that version of the trick that I have done for years even though I as a magician am the only one who can see a difference'. may as well jud...
by Magic Fred
03/24/14 02:43 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

He has been so successful and famous precisely because he will not admit he's a magician. There is no law that you must demystify what you do. This describes the pope to a tee. He may not use sleight of hand (does Geller?) but the whole thing is certainly surrounded in deception, theatre and showma...
by Magic Fred
03/24/14 03:11 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

"World's Greatest", does not always also mean/mirror being the world's most ethical or good person. The best 3 card monte workers I have seen did not perform at any magic club or entertainment venue, but were in Times Square in the 1970's, where a wrong move could result in arrest, injury...
by Magic Fred
03/23/14 02:29 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: Geller stoops to a new low

It's pretty sad and surprising to hear the accolades being heaped upon Geller in this forum. And even more so the reverse for Randi. I think Houdini would be rolling in his grave. Everything Geller has attained in his career is based upon deceiving and taking advantage of people in the worst possib...
by Magic Fred
03/22/14 04:04 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Geller stoops to a new low
Replies: 266
Views: 11596

Re: WTB: The Crimp - Blackpool Convention 2014 issue

Even as a big fan of Jerry's, you have to say that Richard K isn't exactly being "unfair" with his comments. Fair game if you ask me! Regarding pissing off subscribers, that ship has sailed a long time ago. If I recall, he stopped taking subscriptions many years ago and subsequent issues h...
by Magic Fred
02/28/14 03:07 AM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: WTB: The Crimp - Blackpool Convention 2014 issue
Replies: 15
Views: 1541

Re: WTB: The Crimp - Blackpool Convention 2014 issue

I'd have spent 40 quid on a thumb tip to get one.
by Magic Fred
02/27/14 08:07 AM
 
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: WTB: The Crimp - Blackpool Convention 2014 issue
Replies: 15
Views: 1541

Re: RED by Craig Petty

I still think Petty and WMS are getting off lightly with all the focus being on whether the trick was deliberately stolen or not. Either way, the misleading advertising and downright lies on that place which we dare not mention were reprehensible. Quite clearly more than just a case of trying not to...
by Magic Fred
01/17/14 04:30 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: ERDNASE

Richard Kaufman wrote:You can judge Houdni's ability with cards for yourself. Pretty good, I'd say.




Disagree. Although it's very difficult to judge from this sort of footage, it seems to corroborate Vernon's sentiment.
by Magic Fred
01/13/14 08:59 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 2759
Views: 1331872

Re: RED by Craig Petty

Jonathan Townsend wrote:Please don't mind my banter with magic fred about writing style. I have the feeling that he's with me on the side of products with integrity and a market that's respectful of inventors and their creations.


Damned if I know!
by Magic Fred
01/08/14 04:34 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: RED by Craig Petty

Alright Mr. T, for the sake of the discussion, which I think is an important one, I'll do my best at deciphering and responding! Scratch that. I've just sat for a while attempting to dissect your post, extract some meaning from it and make a considered point-for-point response. I genuinely was not a...
by Magic Fred
01/08/14 11:04 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: RED by Craig Petty

Even in today's world of political correctness and lawsuits... yeah... I think we can say it... Craig Petty is a liar*. No matter how annoyed and frustrated one becomes over things like this - shouldn't the real purpose of these kinds of "name and shame" be to pressure those who does wron...
by Magic Fred
01/08/14 07:59 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: RED by Craig Petty

I'll go with occam's razor on this one which would suggest that accute, selective amnesia is not the cause. I do so agree with you. William does, after all, offer the sharpest cuts in town. I feel that he would be keen, also, to do away with the ' my friend might have posted it on my account, in my...
by Magic Fred
01/08/14 07:20 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: RED by Craig Petty

I've seen this happen before, and it's not uncommon. You read something, forget about it (no matter how great you thought it was at the time) and then years later it pops back into your head and you think it's an invention rather than realizing it's a memory. The thing to do, of course, is then sho...
by Magic Fred
01/07/14 03:04 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: RED by Craig Petty

Questions of provenance, permissions etc can be addressed by thorough research of the entire publisher's line and its context within the larger literature. Just how much "appropriated" is acceptable - and to whom? Crowd-sourcing the research and publication of the findings for all and sun...
by Magic Fred
01/07/14 10:23 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RED by Craig Petty
Replies: 79
Views: 8402

Re: Moderators

Fred this is beyond dull. I stated from outset that I am someone who prefers dvd to learn from. Deal with it. It's my decision. I read books on other subjects and have learnt a lot but for magic I prefer dvd. End of discussion. It's personal choice as I've stated from the OUTSET. And yet you keep r...
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 04:44 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Moderators
Replies: 29
Views: 3262

Re: Moderators

I got jumped in for not laying down for bullies and no one told them to back off with their ridiculous crusade about DVD vs books. I for one did not mention a single word about the DVDs vs books debate. I said it was lazy to label yourself a "visual learner" as an excuse for having diffic...
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 04:30 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Moderators
Replies: 29
Views: 3262

Re: Moderators

phantommenace wrote:Fred you have been the instigator from the outset, I stand up to bullies. Deal with it.


Re-read my posts, I've "dealt with it" rather well, even if I do say so myself.
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 04:14 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Moderators
Replies: 29
Views: 3262

Re: Moderators

phantommenace wrote:... If this forum doesn't want new people to Join then they are making a good attempt at making new people unwelcome.


Not new people in general, just people like you.
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 04:11 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Moderators
Replies: 29
Views: 3262

Re: Moderators

No, you were not labeled lazy for liking DVDs. You were called lazy for trotting out the old excuse that you are a "visual learner" as the reason you don't like learning from books. I should know, I'm the one who said it. And I stand by it. I like DVDs. It just has nothing to do with being...
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 03:39 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Moderators
Replies: 29
Views: 3262

Re: Moderators

Bill Mullins wrote:
phantommenace wrote:Hijacking someone's thread


I believe all threads on this board belong to Genii and Richard Kaufman. He graciously lets us use them.

If this is hard to understand, Brad and I will make a youtube video to explain it visually.


Ohhh! Nice. ;)
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 12:05 PM
 
Forum: General
Topic: Moderators
Replies: 29
Views: 3262

Re: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?

Well my point has been proven :)
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 11:37 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?
Replies: 36
Views: 3991

Re: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?

Alright, I shall restate with a complete lack of snark. Here on this forum, there is a higher percentage of posters who understand that there is no such thing as a "visual learner" and it is basically just a synonym for "lazy." We all learn better visually, that is the nature of ...
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 09:56 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?
Replies: 36
Views: 3991

Re: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?

Oh dear. Perhaps you would be more at home over at the Magic Cafe.
by Magic Fred
10/19/13 01:14 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?
Replies: 36
Views: 3991

Re: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?

Seconded. The Magic Cafe will rot your brain.
by Magic Fred
10/15/13 08:57 AM
 
Forum: General
Topic: why cant I join talkmagic or magiccafe?
Replies: 36
Views: 3991

Re: Absurd Cups & Balls Routine!

JHostler wrote:You'd be hard-pressed to find a more potent balance of technical skill and theatrical creativity. Yann sets a benchmark, for sure. Just unfreakinbelievable.


It's good. But it's not that good.
by Magic Fred
12/10/12 08:03 PM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Absurd Cups & Balls Routine!
Replies: 19
Views: 1755

Re: Horrendous move

Their get-around that would be that you can present it with that turnover flash.... it would just require you to be sat at a table, or have a topit, or be good at sl**ving. So technically the video isn't wrong; it's just not entirely right either. Which is exactly the kind of dodge they have critic...
by Magic Fred
11/30/12 08:47 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Horrendous move
Replies: 28
Views: 2644

Re: Horrendous move

It looks better the very last time starting at 2:32 on the video. Then it suddenly looks much better because his right fingers are not squeezed tight and he immediately shows the empty cover he just removed by turning over his right hand. I didn't see him do that anywhere else in the video. I bet y...
by Magic Fred
11/30/12 05:58 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Horrendous move
Replies: 28
Views: 2644

Re: Help... where can I find The Mcmillan Switch

Richard Kaufman wrote:The technique in Shade is the Dan McMillan switch performed by Jason England.


You can compare Mister England's variation with the original description from "The Gamblers Palm Revisited" here:

Hand Mucking

;)
by Magic Fred
06/17/12 02:57 AM
 
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Help... where can I find The Mcmillan Switch
Replies: 31
Views: 7582

Re: Paper balls over the head

I wouldn't' say from the top that the rest of the audience are going to see how it works. Rather some suggestion that it will be obvious to anyone who is not drunk as a skunk.

The laughter in the audience then implies that she is the only one rat-arsed...
by Magic Fred
06/07/12 11:18 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Paper balls over the head
Replies: 22
Views: 1352

Re: BLATANT RIP-OFF

I find myself in the rare position of agreeing with Mister Henderson. Never underestimate the power and influence of a good mentor/hero figure. Whatever the answer is, it certainly isn't to throw the hands in the air proclaiming "[censored] it, the bastards are going to do it anyway." As f...
by Magic Fred
06/04/12 04:37 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: BLATANT RIP-OFF
Replies: 121
Views: 9075

Re: Uri Geller

"I wonder if he could get sued if he did finally admit he is a massive con artist?" I am open to correction on this point, but I _believe_ it is the case that Uri never instigated a legal action based solely on whether he does, or does not, have psychic powers. I believe it is the case th...
by Magic Fred
05/25/12 03:24 AM
 
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Uri Geller
Replies: 10
Views: 809
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