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by Jack Shalom
December 17th, 2017, 12:09 pm
Forum: Light From the Lamp
Topic: Magic Books 2017
Replies: 16
Views: 1979

Re: Magic Books 2017

Fifty pages into Scripting Magic 2, and it's not just one of my favorite magic books of the year, but favorite magic books ever.
by Jack Shalom
December 17th, 2017, 10:35 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Another version of Chan's book test, post retirement:

https://youtu.be/5jqiQ2kr3Os?t=1m58s
by Jack Shalom
December 14th, 2017, 6:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

I think if Mark plays his cards right, this thread can overtake the Erdnase one.
What's the over/under?
by Jack Shalom
December 13th, 2017, 11:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Is this going to be like that final episode of Newhart where he wakes up and Suzanne Pleshette is in the bed next to him? (Apologies to those who don't get the reference. But it's apt, believe me.)
by Jack Shalom
December 13th, 2017, 8:16 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Math tricks are much more liable to be uncovered than a miscall done intelligently as Osterlind does. And when math tricks are uncovered, in my experience, audiences can feel like you're insulting their intelligence. While this effect does rely on what you would call a "math trick", it is...
by Jack Shalom
December 13th, 2017, 8:10 pm
Forum: Light From the Lamp
Topic: Magic Books 2017
Replies: 16
Views: 1979

Re: Magic Books 2017

Just got Scripting Magic 2. It looks great!
by Jack Shalom
December 13th, 2017, 11:50 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Math tricks are much more liable to be uncovered than a miscall done intelligently as Osterlind does. And when math tricks are uncovered, in my experience, audiences can feel like you're insulting their intelligence.
by Jack Shalom
December 12th, 2017, 11:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

My argument is not a moral one. I am not suggesting that certain forms of deception are more acceptable to the audience than another ... Please, we can all read, Mr. Keyes; you've continually framed your posts in moral terms, and continually claimed that certain forms of deception are more acceptab...
by Jack Shalom
December 12th, 2017, 9:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

I think he was talking about telling lies in magic rather than in one's personal life. I'm speaking to the point that this distinction between a verbal lie and a visual lie is a made up one. No one gets a pass for one and not the other, ever. Either they are both wrong or neither is. In the case of...
by Jack Shalom
December 12th, 2017, 6:27 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

I wonder, Mr. Keyes, if you've ever been in a relationship with a significant other for any amount of time? Because I guarantee you that whether you tell them verbally that the unfamiliar bra left under the bed is yours, or merely put it up against your chest to imply it is, you will be called a liar.
by Jack Shalom
December 11th, 2017, 11:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

this sunday i approached a literate table of folks at the restaurant in which i perform. Each of the two children were reading books. Given our recent discussion i performed the Hoy book test. They were convinced i could read minds. and no one, at no time, ever even mentioned the page number as imp...
by Jack Shalom
December 11th, 2017, 6:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

this sunday i approached a literate table of folks at the restaurant in which i perform. Each of the two children were reading books. Given our recent discussion i performed the Hoy book test. They were convinced i could read minds. and no one, at no time, ever even mentioned the page number as imp...
by Jack Shalom
December 6th, 2017, 3:34 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Well if mine is incorrect, then so is Mr. Henderson's, as he quite explicitly claims that "lying" is just another method that magicians may use. I wonder why you direct your criticism solely at me. Because Brad has made it abundantly clear that he understands the difference between lying ...
by Jack Shalom
December 6th, 2017, 1:02 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Well if mine is incorrect, then so is Mr. Henderson's, as he quite explicitly claims that "lying" is just another method that magicians may use. I wonder why you direct your criticism solely at me. Because Brad has made it abundantly clear that he understands the difference between lying ...
by Jack Shalom
December 6th, 2017, 12:49 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

or did I miss something? Yes. What a performer says and does on a stage is not lying. Your whole premise is incorrect. Well if mine is incorrect, then so is Mr. Henderson's, as he quite explicitly claims that "lying" is just another method that magicians may use. I wonder why you direct y...
by Jack Shalom
December 6th, 2017, 12:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The Jerx Year Three
Replies: 32
Views: 2417

Re: The Jerx Year Three

Your misdirection/direction is correct when the audience mentally look back on what's happened and there is nothing even remotely suspicious they can latch on to. I don't think Andy would disagree; I think his point was that ostentatious attention directing can be the very cause of suspicion that i...
by Jack Shalom
December 6th, 2017, 2:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

or did I miss something?


Yes. What a performer says and does on a stage is not lying. Your whole premise is incorrect.
by Jack Shalom
December 4th, 2017, 7:00 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

by Jack Shalom
December 3rd, 2017, 1:42 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

by Jack Shalom
December 2nd, 2017, 10:29 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Someone please put this thread out of its misery.
by Jack Shalom
December 2nd, 2017, 10:22 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

Indeed, I am convinced Gallaway is Erdnase. But you and others have said Gallaway has zero chance of being Erdnase, and that he has no case whatsoever. I am arguing against that. To show that you are wrong I do not need to prove that Gallaway is Erdnase. All I need to show is that he had a case, or...
by Jack Shalom
November 28th, 2017, 1:05 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Grays after spelling trick.
Replies: 12
Views: 811

Re: Grays after spelling trick.

You'd be amazed how much English grammar you forget once on the astral plane.
by Jack Shalom
November 28th, 2017, 12:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

What edge???? If the audience doesn't know the others are doing what you call "lying," how do you have an edge? You may well in fact have lost the edge by refusing to use the most deceptive means to accomplish the trick. The cigar box example is a poor one, for once again you are confusing...
by Jack Shalom
November 27th, 2017, 9:22 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

But if I say, "Oh, rot! It's empty!" and proceed, after a tap of ye olde wande to pour a torrent of pills out of it, that would be a lie In this situation, a magician can: 1) Say it's empty, then pour out the pills 2) Say nothing, show that the bottle is apparently "empty," then...
by Jack Shalom
November 27th, 2017, 7:19 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Dealt: Richard Turner
Replies: 6
Views: 698

Re: Dealt: Richard Turner

Thanks. The film is now available for purchase via iTunes:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/dealt/id1287357427
by Jack Shalom
November 27th, 2017, 6:52 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Grays after spelling trick.
Replies: 12
Views: 811

Re: Grays after spelling trick.

Have someone, preferably two, proofread your work, Mark, before submitting it.
by Jack Shalom
November 27th, 2017, 1:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

I have no idea what "logical types" you are referring to. As I am quite the adept at logic, I eagerly await your contribution to the subject so we can settle this. http://www.biolinguagem.com/ling_cog_cult/bateson_1972_%20logicalcategories_learningcommunication.pdf The menu is not the din...
by Jack Shalom
November 27th, 2017, 12:29 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

Chris you have done some interesting research, so kudos for that. However, there is no requirement for someone to have done original research in order to criticize your awful jumping to conclusions about what you have found. Your appeal to Freud was ridiculous. There is no case in hundreds of exampl...
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 8:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Jkeyes, you are confusing logical types. See Bateson on schizophrenia. Real life is not equal to a play is not equal to the play within the play is not equal to the play within the play within the play. I have no idea what "logical types" you are referring to. As I am quite the adept at l...
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote:
Jack Shalom wrote:Is that a no?

It is a don't expect to be spoon fed. Read the book and then we can have a conversation about it.

I'll take that as a no.
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 5:05 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote:
Jack Shalom wrote:Well, now that's one I read, although not in the original German, I'll grant you. So I'll ask again, can you give me a citation where he points out a situation where one's own name is substituted for another similar name?

It appears you haven't understood the book. Read it again.


Is that a no?
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 12:58 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

I certainly haven't read all of Freud, so maybe you can give me a citation where he points out a situation where one's own name is substituted for another similar name. Well, that brings back great memories of times past. I can only point you to the German version I read many years ago. The book is...
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 12:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Jkeyes, you are confusing logical types. See Bateson on schizophrenia.

Real life is not equal to a play is not equal to the play within the play is not equal to the play within the play within the play.
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 11:31 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

I hope posters on this board don't mind me asking about another somewhat different subject concerning Erdnase: While looking at the "Technical Terms" section, I noticed that all the terms except "Filet Card" are still in general use. Was that term originated by Erdnase? Does anyo...
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 11:07 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

2) A Freudian error. The author writes his own first name 'Edward' instead of 'Edmund'. That may indeed be the biggest give away that the author was Edward Gallaway. Just the opposite I would think. We are all exquisitely attuned to our own names and would immediately notice a difference. Even a sl...
by Jack Shalom
November 26th, 2017, 12:43 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5426
Views: 1905618

Re: ERDNASE

2) A Freudian error. The author writes his own first name 'Edward' instead of 'Edmund'. That may indeed be the biggest give away that the author was Edward Gallaway. Just the opposite I would think. We are all exquisitely attuned to our own names and would immediately notice a difference. Even a sl...
by Jack Shalom
November 25th, 2017, 7:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

While setting oneself a restriction is not necessarily a bad thing, and can lead to further creativity (e.g. write a poem of only 14 lines in ababcdcdefefgg form), the idea that such a restriction is "ennobling" is silly, in my opinion. You may well have reasons, personal and artistic for ...
by Jack Shalom
November 25th, 2017, 3:06 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Your position is still bewildering to me. An illusion is a lie told in a particular context. . The Lady doesn't really float. What right do you have under your restrictions then, to imply that she does? What right do you have to imply that the card is in the center of the deck when you have controll...
by Jack Shalom
November 24th, 2017, 11:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 530
Views: 13556

Re: Ennobling Magic

Me three. The whole point of a stage is to give context to lies and turn them into stories. So, I'm bewildered as to what you are talking about.
by Jack Shalom
November 24th, 2017, 12:41 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Dealt: Richard Turner
Replies: 6
Views: 698

Dealt: Richard Turner

Hi, you may enjoy listening to my radio interview with Luke Korem (son of Danny), the director of the compelling new film documentary, Dealt, about ace card mechanic Richard Turner.

https://jackshalom.net/2017/11/24/dealt ... rd-turner/

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