The Genii Forum

Key point is that both the copper silver insert and the half need to fit in the shell to do these effects (and others) as described.

SAMOYA and Soleil et Lune cannot be done with a JOHNSON Sun and Moon.

The Johnson Sun and Moon does not use an expanded top shell .

I could say more but not sure if that is epxosure in this forum

Who is the manufacturer of csb sets?

Deans set is unexpanded