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by Jonathan Townsend
December 15th, 2017, 11:33 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

Bill Mullins wrote:
chetday wrote:Is Brad lying because he fails to capitalize the first word of his sentences?


I think that is just his tribute to e e cummings and archy the cockroach.


Happy to learn of the latter. "i was once a vers libre bard" . Thanks :)
by Jonathan Townsend
December 13th, 2017, 9:49 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

If I understand the OP correctly there's a moment in the procedure for a book test trick where the book is opened to a page so the volunteer can read some text - where the script and actions are less than congruent? Folks seem to be avoiding that discussion of method/blocking/scripting. Is there a p...
by Jonathan Townsend
December 11th, 2017, 1:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

To me, it's about allaying suspicion by diverting the audience's attention from the simple truth, rather than denying it outright. Change the subject, make a joke, focus on something else. Verbal misdirection, as opposed to blatant lies. ... Suspicion is a biggie. Maybe that can be broken down into...
by Jonathan Townsend
December 11th, 2017, 9:15 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

Maybe this "lie" dialog is about keeping the audience side of silent script (what they think is happening) internal rather than narrated?

performer wrote:...Slydini didn't advocate that people should emulate him...
Maybe after they learned to do exactly as shown in the lesson.
by Jonathan Townsend
December 8th, 2017, 12:01 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

... I would rather play to the smartest. Like I said before: if you can't fool the wise ones, they may educate the dullards. And that is yet another way that the audience can discover that you lie, regardless of how competent you are. More commonly heard advice on the topic in general: Now this ove...
by Jonathan Townsend
December 6th, 2017, 9:29 am
Forum: General
Topic: The Jerx Year Three
Replies: 32
Views: 2412

Re: The Jerx Year Three

It helps to have the audience view "inner script" of what's presented and what's important in mind when designing a routine. Going all the way to "feints" may be overkill unless you also have a character that comes across as engaging/playful. Observing that a trick's effectivenes...
by Jonathan Townsend
December 2nd, 2017, 10:26 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Coin(s) through Transparent Silk References Please
Replies: 32
Views: 1541

Re: Coin(s) through Transparent Silk References Please

Trying to read intent for the magic effect... if you're treating the scarf as a table (with volunteers - so it's a working surface more than a container) - how about doing the James Lewis routine? Or even use parts of Deal Dill's triangle routine?
by Jonathan Townsend
November 29th, 2017, 2:21 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Coin(s) through Transparent Silk References Please
Replies: 32
Views: 1541

Re: Coin(s) through Transparent Silk References Please

IIRC there's an item in Bobo's where you have a [ on top of the hank and the coin below wedged in so it stays there so you can show an empty hand reaching underneath....
by Jonathan Townsend
November 27th, 2017, 9:17 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

...Is it really a good idea for magicians to lie to the audience? ... Do you not think that we could elevate the resprctability of Magic by sticking to visual illusions and dispensing with deliberate misstatements? Adding a sense of virtue by having the character not say a thing which is obviously ...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 25th, 2017, 12:05 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

... I am specifically referring to rubbish like The Book Test wherein the magician boldly pretends that the page number that was flipped to is the force page. This is what I mean by "a lie"..Precisely what the "bold" aithor confesses it to be. Is this about weakness in method wh...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 24th, 2017, 9:51 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 519
Views: 12856

Re: Ennobling Magic

... Is it really a good idea for magicians to lie to the audience? ... What do you mean by lie? The actor playing his part on the stage is not the character but portraying that character. That's understood in the social convention of theater. The magician is a character portrayed by the performer. ...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 19th, 2017, 6:46 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Bob Swadling Changing Card
Replies: 14
Views: 965

Re: Bob Swadling Changing Card

I'm not familiar with the Swadling card, but would a flap card/acrobatic card do the trick? Hi Bill, part of your question is addressed in the videos linked earlier. That approach brings up the other question (posts above from Leonard Hevia) about how to set/cleanup after mechanical marvels - so th...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 18th, 2017, 11:47 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Bob Swadling Changing Card
Replies: 14
Views: 965

Re: Bob Swadling Changing Card

Agreed - any rational person would be wondering about the mechanical card if done that way. And agreed there are other ways to do non-visual changes that are deceptive. The Marlo item where you have put a coin in the pack then wave your hands over the pack comes to mind. :) But the OP wants a mechan...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 18th, 2017, 10:28 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Bob Swadling Changing Card
Replies: 14
Views: 965

Re: Bob Swadling Changing Card

? What are we disputing here? Have you seen what the delayed action cards look like in action? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YM0_8eh3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbZV30B5zJU That's a direct visual change. Not the same as an implied, "spooky" or card change done in-transit . Please...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 17th, 2017, 11:47 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Bob Swadling Changing Card
Replies: 14
Views: 965

Re: Bob Swadling Changing Card

A topchange? That might get the method rolling... but alone is not enough manage that startling midair change - of a card which is shown front and back both before and after.
by Jonathan Townsend
November 13th, 2017, 8:00 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Royal road to card magic
Replies: 67
Views: 7010

Re: Royal road to card magic

Oh, I forgot to mention that it is in Greater Magic on page 170 in all it's glory. The deck is held lengthwise instead of sideways but it is essentially the same thing. ... Item 2.b. page 170 shares some characteristics as regards corners and a need for cover - and admittedly figure 2 is suggestive...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 13th, 2017, 3:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

Jon I asked that back in 2015 in another thread, and here are some replies I got from Philippe Billot: "In More Magic published by Pr Hoffmann in 1890, he writes page 51: ... Thanks Jack. Looking back a little further we have the mis-printed spot cards ... no fuss then to show an ace and two t...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 13th, 2017, 2:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

? anywhere else it's amusement rather than con/scam? Recall Hofzinser was using and teaching top/bottom changes which work for packets in his tricks - and instructed that the pack be inhand by default.
by Jonathan Townsend
November 11th, 2017, 2:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

The "andrews" thing is not so much a matter of contention as finding a person of the right build, who was in the area, who could handle cards and who had some connection with the other artist. The material clues being Gardener's report of Smith's recollections and scattered titbits in the ...
by Jonathan Townsend
November 8th, 2017, 2:41 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

I'd like a larger collection of text markers for analysis claims. The "(?)" itself is interesting but not IMHO persuasive. What's the significance of that marker given text over those years? A typographical fad? The Federalist Papers came from a fairly specific context among a well known c...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 27th, 2017, 10:57 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Magic on Demand
Replies: 22
Views: 1658

Re: Magic on Demand

have a look here for lots of ideas for practical magic. :)

There's also Micheal Weber's book "Lifesavers"
by Jonathan Townsend
October 21st, 2017, 10:18 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th
Replies: 22
Views: 1433

Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

The idea of "naturalness" did not exist at this point, either in theater in general or in magic. How did you come to that opinion? These lines from a previous century come to mind on the topic: ...with this special o'erstep not the modesty of nature: for any thing so overdone is from the ...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 21st, 2017, 12:07 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th
Replies: 22
Views: 1433

Re: Hofzinser Seminar in Madrid on November 18th

...JN was totally ruthless when it came to method. Whether it be pure skill or amazing gimmicks, he went for directness of effect. Agreed. Even to directly argue along those lines about props being deceptive and correct ("ne plus ultra") for performing in his letters. Look how far he was ...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 20th, 2017, 1:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

Applying Occam's razor, any chance the italicized a is simply the result of having run out of the regular ones? Jack, see the image below. Note that the 'a' slants the wrong way; not only that, but its width is appreciably exaggerated compared to the other type (especially the letters in the italic...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 12th, 2017, 8:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: Forces
Replies: 14
Views: 1230

Re: Forces

Perceived fair choice?
Maximum perceived available choices?

The force of denial can be very strong in these places.
by Jonathan Townsend
October 10th, 2017, 10:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

My own belief is that none of the major candidates so far meet these standards (and I also believe it is ..., I think studying the linguistics of Erdnase is our best hope to identify him. At least it is much better than arguing about his reason of using S.W. Erdnase as his pseudonym. Are there some...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 9th, 2017, 12:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The Jerx Year Three
Replies: 32
Views: 2412

Re: The Jerx Year Three

Joe Mckay wrote:...
I love Andy's work. Although I almost have to fight against my instincts to do so...


He got my vote with the commentary about counting. You can see where that went on another thread.
by Jonathan Townsend
October 7th, 2017, 5:21 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Casual Card Count? question
Replies: 14
Views: 1463

Re: The Casual Card Count? question

Derek Dingle counted from dealer's grip. I use it all the time. Yes, he did. Tony Spina showed that procedure at Tannen's long ago :). I was using that till recently. It's a tough habit to break too. I had to start by moving the cards to Overhand grip parallel to the floor and move the cards up to ...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 4th, 2017, 6:24 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Lighting for closeup
Replies: 3
Views: 498

Re: Lighting for closeup

Agreed about lighting the performer. Imagine the lighting bar on the table in front or to the side to throw lighting focus / cues on the props when appropriate.
by Jonathan Townsend
October 4th, 2017, 10:28 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Lighting for closeup
Replies: 3
Views: 498

Lighting for closeup

Folks might want to consider putting something like this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bi ... e-in-color
at the front of their table to help light the props etc.
by Jonathan Townsend
October 4th, 2017, 9:59 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Casual Card Count? question
Replies: 14
Views: 1463

Re: The Casual Card Count? question

That's interesting - he's been working on a version of wildcard since 1969 and before. His item "Philosopher's Stone" is in the February 1970 issue of Genii Magazine. Not sure about his count though - here's what he was doing then: Hold the packet backs up in the left hand as though for de...
by Jonathan Townsend
October 3rd, 2017, 10:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

Thanks for the link to the 1902 book about magic - which includes some interesting comments about DeKolta's larger birdcage vanish and a trick with an apple's shadow. ;)

What brings you to nine authors for the "swerdnase" text?
by Jonathan Townsend
October 2nd, 2017, 7:32 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Royal Fantasy Assembly ...got a pack of cards to match?
Replies: 8
Views: 1032

Re: Royal Fantasy Assembly ...got a pack of cards to match?

Thanks Brad - looking at those now - Also just a moment ago via email Piatnik US: Jon I am sorry, these cards are not sold in the US. From time to time you will find them on ebay/amazon from individuals that have brought them back from Europe. Wishing you success on your project Kind Regards, **** *...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 30th, 2017, 6:01 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Casual Card Count? question
Replies: 14
Views: 1463

Re: The Casual Card Count? question

Just curious ... What trick that utilizes an Elmsley count, do you think would be improved by using an "Elmsley shuffle"? I'm working on Elmsley's Four Card Trick and going from there. Whether thumbing through the cards, counting or shuffling... no change in grips. Let's call it an "...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 29th, 2017, 6:34 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Royal Fantasy Assembly ...got a pack of cards to match?
Replies: 8
Views: 1032

Re: Royal Fantasy Assembly ...got a pack of cards to match?

Okay, I sent them a note - will see what happens next: Hello, A friend recommend your cards for a project. I'd like to buy a few packs. Where may I find a US retailer for the packs of cards: "Französisches Karo SF PIATNIK deck 32 playing cards 1811" Thanks, Jon Townsend Piatnik of America,...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 29th, 2017, 12:31 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Casual Card Count? question
Replies: 14
Views: 1463

Re: The Casual Card Count? question

That's exactly the approach I'm exploring where the consistent action becomes that of an overhand shuffle. The Elmsley count is kinda interesting done that way. UPCT users --- ask. Any thoughts on putting focus on the card at the face of the pack rather than the one you just thumbed out of the way t...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 28th, 2017, 11:47 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

That's a good find. As it happens, "(?)" and similar have a long history going back to inline annotations by copyists and marginalia. Here's an example of a stylebook which recognizes the practice: https://books.google.com/books?id=j_01AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=question+ma...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 28th, 2017, 9:13 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5425
Views: 1905078

Re: ERDNASE

Hello all. Lybrary mentioned Houdini's book on Paper Magic. I found the book in Google books as linked below. If you open the link and scroll down to page 104, I do believe you will find something of interest to yalls Erdnase mystery. It's what a linguistic forensic Investigator would identify as a...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 27th, 2017, 1:36 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Casual Card Count? question
Replies: 14
Views: 1463

Re: The Casual Card Count? question

Sounds encouraging. Someone did the work to make the display/counting process consistent with an overhand shuffle action? It just seemed a natural step to keep the grip and display angle toward the audience - the thumb pulling single cards as the counting/display action instead of pulling blocks for...
by Jonathan Townsend
September 27th, 2017, 8:19 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Casual Card Count? question
Replies: 14
Views: 1463

The Casual Card Count? question

Good morning, After much fussing and frustration and a glimpse at the forum to see a post by Andy of MCJ/Jerx... a minor thought about motivating that counting thing we do - Elmsley/Hamman... that display procedure. What Andy mentioned as having odd logic about what we are doing (display vs count) a...

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