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by Roger M.
November 15th, 2017, 10:48 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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As relates to Eugene Edwards book Jackpots - on October 25th, on his blog (which you should definitely be reading) - Tom Sawyer has already noted that the writing of Eugene Edwards reads an awful lot like Erdnase. As for being an "expert", I strongly agree with Jacks observation above, wit...
by Roger M.
November 14th, 2017, 2:31 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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On Sept 8th in this thread: http://forums.geniimagazine.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=49999&p=337773#p337773, Our host, Richard K. posted this note: "There is a new candidate, and a book is in the works about him. He's an interesting choice, but other than that I must remain mum." Any u...
by Roger M.
November 12th, 2017, 1:26 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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..... Let's give a short run down and see why Gallaway's case is so compelling. I read, and then re-read your post, and beyond you stating that you felt the contents of your post were "compelling", I found there was nothing at all compelling about anything you presented. So go most of you...
by Roger M.
November 11th, 2017, 10:01 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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...... but we already know he held cards. We don't know anything of the sort! What evidence can you present that puts a deck of cards in Gallaway's hands ? PLEASE ..... be precise. Since pretty much everybody played cards one way or another during the 19th century, essentially everybody had a deck ...
by Roger M.
November 11th, 2017, 8:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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S. Tauzier wrote:...... but we already know he held cards.


We don't know anything of the sort!

What evidence can you present that puts a deck of cards in Gallaway's hands?

PLEASE ..... be precise.
by Roger M.
November 11th, 2017, 12:12 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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S. Tauzier wrote:The tired issue of trying to put a deck of cards in his hands- that is an invalid argument.

It's not at all invalid, but it's certainly Chris's argument!
Indeed many (if not all) of your points are Chris's points!

Interesting.
by Roger M.
November 10th, 2017, 8:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Chris has achieved the commendable undertaking of introducing a "new" candidate, and has had most of the regular posters to this thread accept this new candidate (Gallaway) as to be taken seriously as an addition to the somewhat short list of long established candidates. Like I said a few...
by Roger M.
November 10th, 2017, 8:01 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I think that Chris has provided more evidence, if only circumstantial that Gallaway is Erdnase. But that's more evidence than most, so yes, Gallaway is a viable candidate. Well Chris has presented exactly zero evidence that Gallaway is Erdnase ... but exactly what evidence did Chris present that co...
by Roger M.
November 10th, 2017, 5:52 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Viable = "feasible". I don't believe MFA is feasible simply because the man wrote like an idiot, and no amount of "editing" could fix his incredibly poor grasp of the English language. I also don't believe Gallaway is feasible, because as much as he was at the scene of the crime,...
by Roger M.
November 10th, 2017, 4:42 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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As I was one of those folks you quoted Chris, I'll just note that on an internet forum, the ultimate point is to engage in enjoyable conversation with other participants in the forum ... which is exactly was trying to do with you. In the end though, trying to have a decent conversation with you was ...
by Roger M.
November 10th, 2017, 12:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Is there anyone besides Chris who thinks Gallaway is a viable candidate? Looking back through the thread ... not a single poster has supported Chris's conclusion as it relates to Gallaway. Gallaway as a viable candidate for Erdnase entered the realm of beating a dead horse many months ago. Of cours...
by Roger M.
November 7th, 2017, 10:38 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Re Dalrymple, we can go on the noses alone. They are spot on, except for Sanders. This. One thing artists with Dalrymple's talent don't do is screw up the noses of folks they draw. In this case, the hooked nose is very obviously supposed to be a hooked nose . Despite the potentially racially charge...
by Roger M.
November 6th, 2017, 6:53 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Looks like this Erdnase kickstarter campaign will meet its goal. Thoughts? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/110191763/the-expert-at-the-card-table-with-photographs-from This is exactly what David Ben and Julie Eng have already done to perfection with The Experts at the Card Table . I'm not sure...
by Roger M.
November 4th, 2017, 3:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Dalrymple makes it very clear to the viewer that:

    If the character has a name - it's a person.
    If the character doesn't have a name - it's not a person, it's a "thing" or a "situation".

Such a practice is still extremely common in political cartoons in 2017.
by Roger M.
October 30th, 2017, 6:46 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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It's a terribly obvious thing to say (and I almost feel guilty for saying it), but as his name wasn't Erdnase, he didn't really name anything at all after himself. It does make one wonder what on earth he was planning to do with his chosen pseudonym "Erdnase" though? In his use of that nam...
by Roger M.
October 27th, 2017, 8:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I'm not a young man Chris, and I've seen lots of typesetters hands. Back in the day when government documents were printed daily when government was in session, and long before the advent of desktop printing. I worked in government, and the hands of the guys I saw at the "Queens Printer" w...
by Roger M.
October 27th, 2017, 5:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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.....Indeed they'd be chewed to bits from non-stop handling of sharp metal pieces.
by Roger M.
October 24th, 2017, 6:45 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I see plenty of time and opportunity for him to hone his skills, practice as well as play. I think a point to consider might be, that nobody else does - and if they did, they'd post their support saying so to this thread (which nobody has done to date). Not having any sort of consensus on this spec...
by Roger M.
October 24th, 2017, 10:27 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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lybrary wrote: ...or a statistical analysis like stylometry, has had several successes in the past, such as the Unabomber case...

lybrary wrote:In the Unabomber case stylometry was not used.


These quotes of yours say two very different things Chris, making it hard to hold a conversation.
by Roger M.
October 24th, 2017, 1:39 am
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Pretty sure too that the Unabombers brother David actually deduced it was his brother who was the Unabomber simply by recognizing Ted's writing style, which I don't believe is stylometry, just a brother recognizing how his own brother writes and talks. The stylometric analysis was done after David t...
by Roger M.
October 23rd, 2017, 10:09 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Yes, those are the same, small, group of successful undertakings we always read about when the subject of linguistic analysis comes up. Same 5 or 6 books, same 5 or 6 authors, same 5 or 6 discoveries. I will certainly give you that these limited examples do point to the potential for success. Such i...
by Roger M.
October 23rd, 2017, 8:59 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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And how do you know how it was historically pronounced? Because Dai Vernon, whose experience with the book went back to when he was 12 (1906), pronounced it "Urd-nace". Is that the generally accepted pronunciation? I've always heard & said Urdnaze. (Pretty small sample size though.) I...
by Roger M.
October 23rd, 2017, 8:54 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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I am talking about evidence we already have secured, not evidence we may find someday. Absent of a 'smoking gun' the linguistic 'fingerprint' Erdnase has left behind is the only evidence data-rich enough to allow an identification. Linguistic analysis seems to be a very nascent form of scientific a...
by Roger M.
October 23rd, 2017, 7:05 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Either way, it is the only evidence of Erdnase detailed and rich enough that it could possibly allow an identification of the author. This is not accurate - in that a bookplate, or any other form of identification written by the author, in his own hand on the title page (or elsewhere - marginalia p...
by Roger M.
October 21st, 2017, 12:51 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I was not arguing that Erdnase had been a miner or a lumberjack. The mining and tree cutting would come after the cheating, not before. Yes Bill, Erdnase was so desperate to become a lumberjack that he couldn't wait to stop being a cardshark, write his book to get it out of the way, and then dedica...
by Roger M.
October 20th, 2017, 7:21 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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. Just printing a copyright statement isn't a particularly good bluff. Having it registered, something that could be looked up in copyright registration books in most larger libraries, is much safer. (my bold) This really doesn't comport with a guy trying (according to you) to remain anonymous. If ...
by Roger M.
October 20th, 2017, 6:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Erdnase didn't have a comprehensive plan to completely conceal his identity, otherwise the book would have said "Anonymous" on the spine. Writing "Anonymous" would have invited much more inquiry much earlier. This is not accurate. Being an anonymous author invited no more scruti...
by Roger M.
October 20th, 2017, 2:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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With the limited information we have about Erdnase's cheque payment to Smith, I agree that it's more likely than not that the cheque wasn't personalized. A couple of years ago, when wondering about the cheque Erdnase wrote out to Smith, I did a bit of research and discovered that personalized cheque...
by Roger M.
October 20th, 2017, 1:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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If Erdnase had a comprehensive plan to conceal his identity, then he wouldn't have put M.D. Smith's name in big block letters on the title page of EATCT. To do so would make absolutely no sense if somebody was making a concerted effort to conceal their identity. Not to put too fine a point on it, bu...
by Roger M.
October 20th, 2017, 12:18 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Erdnase wasn't trying very hard, if he was even "trying" at all to seriously conceal his identity to anybody who got past the cover of the book and saw the name S.W. Erdnase. Erdnase engaged Smith, and didn't at all try to hide his identity from him. Erdnase did this knowing full well that...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 12:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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... they are precise and clear - in other words they are eloquent. Anyway... No, that means they are "precise and clear" Eloquence in speaking or writing (by definition) means the power of expressing strong emotions in striking and appropriate language, thereby producing conviction or per...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 12:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Oh Chris ... give it up. Although insults seem to be your forte, they are simply too weak to have any effect. I'm a pretty smart guy, and indeed I know what "eloquence" means - but enough about me. Please try to take a breath, and not take others making headway with a candidate different t...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 10:57 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Astute readers of this thread would be wise to take a moment when reading comments like "you're making my point" , or "not true at all" , or any other definitive statements made by posters to this thread, and take that moment to examine whether the comment being made is true or f...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 10:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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When Erdnase shifted from his general prose in EATCT to highly technical descriptions of moves, he left any and all semblance of "eloquence" behind. His assorted descriptions of in-jogs and out-jogs are, if anything, highly workmanlike - to the point where, by removing all airs of eloquenc...
by Roger M.
October 18th, 2017, 3:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Bill has demonstrated that E.S.A. was associated with playing cards in such a notorious fashion that the night E.S.A. didn't show up to an evening of card play , the local newspaper thought it a unique enough occurrence to mention in an article. Roger, one branch of my family ran in the “higher” so...
by Roger M.
October 18th, 2017, 10:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Smith only remembers one meeting with Erdnase even though he must have met him more than once. Actually, Gardners quote is "Although Smith must have seen him on several occasions, he can recall only one meeting, but that one he recalls vividly" . Smith has no problems recalling the meetin...
by Roger M.
October 17th, 2017, 5:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Layers upon layers of assumptions. A joke? Regardless, in the United States and Canada, when one marries, it's very common, if not highly traditional that each spouse assumes the relatives of the other as their own - this both figuratively and in regular conversation. My dad called my mum's mother ...
by Roger M.
October 17th, 2017, 10:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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I will have doubts about any candidate unless he is shown to have been an experienced amateur or professional magician. I agree Richard, with a minor modification. If one believes (as I do) that Erdnase wrote the EATCT without the assistance of any other writers, then his being at the very least a ...
by Roger M.
October 16th, 2017, 7:23 pm
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Topic: ERDNASE
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Generational differences taken into account, those seem to be very strong links Bill. They all essentially lived right on top of each other, at least in a regional sense. I can't help but note that Bill's research has both Dollie and Edwin as a couple who were quite serious card players . At least s...
by Roger M.
October 16th, 2017, 2:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
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Bill does have arguments that make it plausible that the Whiteside County Seelys knew the Henry County Seeleys, but I'll let him make that case. I look forward to reading that information from Bill, especially as those two counties are literally right next door to each other, with both counties tog...

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