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by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 12:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

... they are precise and clear - in other words they are eloquent. Anyway... No, that means they are "precise and clear" Eloquence in speaking or writing (by definition) means the power of expressing strong emotions in striking and appropriate language, thereby producing conviction or per...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 12:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Oh Chris ... give it up. Although insults seem to be your forte, they are simply too weak to have any effect. I'm a pretty smart guy, and indeed I know what "eloquence" means - but enough about me. Please try to take a breath, and not take others making headway with a candidate different t...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 10:57 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Astute readers of this thread would be wise to take a moment when reading comments like "you're making my point" , or "not true at all" , or any other definitive statements made by posters to this thread, and take that moment to examine whether the comment being made is true or f...
by Roger M.
October 19th, 2017, 10:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

When Erdnase shifted from his general prose in EATCT to highly technical descriptions of moves, he left any and all semblance of "eloquence" behind. His assorted descriptions of in-jogs and out-jogs are, if anything, highly workmanlike - to the point where, by removing all airs of eloquenc...
by Roger M.
October 18th, 2017, 3:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Bill has demonstrated that E.S.A. was associated with playing cards in such a notorious fashion that the night E.S.A. didn't show up to an evening of card play , the local newspaper thought it a unique enough occurrence to mention in an article. Roger, one branch of my family ran in the “higher” so...
by Roger M.
October 18th, 2017, 10:19 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Smith only remembers one meeting with Erdnase even though he must have met him more than once. Actually, Gardners quote is "Although Smith must have seen him on several occasions, he can recall only one meeting, but that one he recalls vividly" . Smith has no problems recalling the meetin...
by Roger M.
October 17th, 2017, 5:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Layers upon layers of assumptions. A joke? Regardless, in the United States and Canada, when one marries, it's very common, if not highly traditional that each spouse assumes the relatives of the other as their own - this both figuratively and in regular conversation. My dad called my mum's mother ...
by Roger M.
October 17th, 2017, 10:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

I will have doubts about any candidate unless he is shown to have been an experienced amateur or professional magician. I agree Richard, with a minor modification. If one believes (as I do) that Erdnase wrote the EATCT without the assistance of any other writers, then his being at the very least a ...
by Roger M.
October 16th, 2017, 7:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Generational differences taken into account, those seem to be very strong links Bill. They all essentially lived right on top of each other, at least in a regional sense. I can't help but note that Bill's research has both Dollie and Edwin as a couple who were quite serious card players . At least s...
by Roger M.
October 16th, 2017, 2:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Bill does have arguments that make it plausible that the Whiteside County Seelys knew the Henry County Seeleys, but I'll let him make that case. I look forward to reading that information from Bill, especially as those two counties are literally right next door to each other, with both counties tog...
by Roger M.
October 15th, 2017, 7:55 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Bill Mullins wrote:Edwin S. Andrews was related (by marriage) to Louis Dalrymple.

Credit to Richard Hatch for much of this research.


In all my years, I never thought I'd actually see a "smoking gun" as relates to Erdnase ... and yet Richard and Bill find one!
by Roger M.
October 15th, 2017, 7:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

David Ben, writing in Magicol #180 gives the following conditions for finding Erdnase to a factor of the 90% required by criminal law in the U.S.: 1) In Chicago in pre-1902 (E.S. Andrews was indeed in Chicago at that time.) 2) That his wife be related to Dalrymple (just now confirmed by Bill and Ric...
by Roger M.
October 15th, 2017, 7:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

In 2011, in an article Richard Hatch wrote in his article for Magicol (pg. 23) ... Richard wrote of his original candidate, E.S. Andrews: "In my opinion, if the relationship between Dollie Seely and Louis Dalrymple's mother could be established and shown to be close enough that they would have ...
by Roger M.
October 15th, 2017, 7:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Holy Smokes Bill! For long time readers of this thread, you will recall that in March of 2011, Bill also put a deck of cards in E.S.Andrews hands with the research described in this post: Re: Erdnase by Bill Mullins » 10 Mar 2011 19:34 Milton Franklin Andrews has been the "standard" candid...
by Roger M.
October 11th, 2017, 8:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Has this film been mentioned here before? I don't think so . . . http://www.erdnase-film.com/ Thanks for the link Bill, I'd not seen anything at all about this film prior to clicking it. Looks like they're presently looking for investors to get the film off the ground. I hope they succeed, as their...
by Roger M.
October 3rd, 2017, 8:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

The italics on the cover have been noted before, as has assorted text formatting and style throughout the book (small caps, etc). But your definition of the purpose of reverse italics is far too narrow. Reverse italics can indeed be used for ships names ... but they can also be used where there is a...
by Roger M.
October 2nd, 2017, 10:26 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Then it occurred to me that, if Thompson had a friend with similar interests, that friend would probably have access to his library. I found such a friend about two years ago and have been researching his background ever since. Gentlemen, may I introduce my new candidate in the hunt for Erdnase -- ...
by Roger M.
September 30th, 2017, 12:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Bill makes the important point in his post above. We know that Smith met Erdnase. And because Smith's recall of Erdnase doesn't include anything of substance that would point to Gallaway, Chris has to discount or reinterpret everything Smith writes or says to make it fit Gallaway. From a practical s...
by Roger M.
September 28th, 2017, 2:15 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

That’s a nice sentiment, but it’s got absolutely nothing to do with the contents of my post. Chris is free to post as he sees fit to post, only the forum mods can influence that. I’m equally free to dispute or otherwise question what’s posted, as others are free to dispute or otherwise comment on th...
by Roger M.
September 27th, 2017, 6:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

From approximately March of 2015 through to today, Chris has floated his candidate as Erdnase in a manner that could only be described as "desperate and very aggressive", with Chris responding to any perceived slight with anger. Unlike discussion about other candidates ... the discussion a...
by Roger M.
September 17th, 2017, 3:07 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.
Replies: 26
Views: 2443

Re: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.

Being a master chess player and being a master showman are not mutually exclusive. Koltanowski's performance was definitely designed to entertain an audience of paying patrons. You think he did this for free!? It was how he made his living. This is a R.I.P. Peter Reveen thread . A way to remember t...
by Roger M.
September 16th, 2017, 11:17 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.
Replies: 26
Views: 2443

Re: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.

Great story Bob! My strongest recollection of the actual Reveen shows I was involved with revolve around the fact that I always thought of hypnosis as "an entertainment", and nothing more than that. On three occasions, two when Ty was acting as Peter's assistant, and the last tour Peter di...
by Roger M.
September 15th, 2017, 5:24 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.
Replies: 26
Views: 2443

Re: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.

It never surprises me when threads like this (a Peter Reveen thread) eventually receive the post along the lines of "oh yeah ... well I saw a Knights Tour that Reveen's Knights Tour couldn't have been as good as, performed by ?????? ..." But in this case, and although I've never seen Kolty...
by Roger M.
September 14th, 2017, 12:43 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.
Replies: 26
Views: 2443

Re: RIP Peter Reveen Sr.

You read about a lot of performers who aspire to command the stage.

Peter COMMANDED the stage from start to finish, and his "Knights Tour" on a really good night (IMO) can never be equaled.

To Arnaud above: I don't think there's any footage online of Reveen doing the Knights Tour.
by Roger M.
September 13th, 2017, 12:03 pm
Forum: Light from the Lamp ONLINE.
Topic: Stripper Jig Card Trimmer
Replies: 10
Views: 2809

Re: Stripper Jig Card Trimmer

...I'm not sure why you'd ever want to put one into every card in an entire deck... Eoin explains why you'd want to do that on his website. Indeed. I read that. It still doesn't really make any sense in terms of how a breather crimp is used. Putting the work into every single card in the deck creat...
by Roger M.
September 11th, 2017, 9:53 pm
Forum: Light from the Lamp ONLINE.
Topic: Stripper Jig Card Trimmer
Replies: 10
Views: 2809

Re: Stripper Jig Card Trimmer

You can put an invisible breather crimp in with your fingers in less than 2 seconds. I'm not sure why you'd ever want to put one into every card in an entire deck, as a breather is usually (but not always) a single card. A breather isn't dependant on the crimp "being in the same place" on ...
by Roger M.
September 9th, 2017, 11:39 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: 383: The Expert - New Documentary: Looking for S.W. Erdnase
Replies: 4
Views: 765

Re: 383: The Expert - New Documentary: Looking for S.W. Erdnase

Well, you don't have to remain mum Richard ... you could tells us more! :)
by Roger M.
September 8th, 2017, 5:42 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: 383: The Expert - New Documentary: Looking for S.W. Erdnase
Replies: 4
Views: 765

Re: 383: The Expert - New Documentary: Looking for S.W. Erdnase

This project has some pretty authoritative names associated with it (heavyweights if you will)! It certainly looks well thought out, and although it may not present anything particularly "new" about Erdnase, it certainly breaks new ground in the presentation of the information acquired by ...
by Roger M.
September 7th, 2017, 6:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

This is all so similar to the Gardner/Busby/Whaley declaration that Milton Franklin Andrews was "for sure" Erdnase ... only to have that theory dismissed out of hand on multiple occasions by those who bothered to actually examine the writing style of both parties. Even Gardner began to hav...
by Roger M.
August 10th, 2017, 7:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Houdini's diaries?
Replies: 21
Views: 3937

Re: Houdini's diaries?

I had assumed (first mistake) that the references to Kalush looking through Houdini diaries were making reference to the few diaries that are owned by others, and tend to show up here and there in Houdini museum displays and such. If Kalush did get a look at the Ernst diaries, it would be interestin...
by Roger M.
August 10th, 2017, 5:12 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Houdini's diaries?
Replies: 21
Views: 3937

Re: Houdini's diaries?

I hadn't realized that Ken Silverman passed away until last night, when I finally picked up my Aug issue of Genii for a full read. Interestingly, Richard notes in his magazine column that the Silverman Houdini book will never be reprinted, and that folks should consider purchasing used copies before...
by Roger M.
July 6th, 2017, 8:39 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Will Tsai - Youtube Responds on ethics of VFX ;-)
Replies: 73
Views: 4610

Re: Will Tsai - Youtube Responds on ethics of VFX ;-)

jkeyes1000, you've really got to first get a better handle on who it is you're arguing your point with before you start going punch to punch with them! ;)

(unless you just enjoy arguing ... something for which I have personal sympathy, as it's a character flaw of my own).
by Roger M.
July 2nd, 2017, 8:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

a bit? Perhaps I was being overly enthusiastic. But seriously, their lives overlapped, there was a deep similarity in how they viewed playing cards, and perhaps most importantly - the world was a much smaller place in the early 1900's, inasmuch as folks with similar interests could, in a big city l...
by Roger M.
July 2nd, 2017, 11:05 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

Anything is possible. In this very thread, Richard Hatch posted this a while back: “Vernon also speculated that he might perhaps have met the mysterious author as a youth while studying magic books at the library in Ottawa. A stranger with a red beard engaged him in conversation about card work and ...
by Roger M.
June 20th, 2017, 6:21 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Jeff Busby Passes Away
Replies: 138
Views: 21655

Re: Jeff Busby Passes Away

I hear ya' Jim.
by Roger M.
June 20th, 2017, 10:00 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Jeff Busby Passes Away
Replies: 138
Views: 21655

Re: Jeff Busby Passes Away

Busby's dead.

Civil society lets the dead rest in peace.

I know he's despised here in the Forum, but civility requires some compromise of ones baser instincts.
by Roger M.
April 21st, 2017, 9:47 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 4971
Views: 1826252

Re: ERDNASE

magicfish wrote:I still cherish my Coles edition. I found it in a bargain bin for $2.00 in a used book store.


The Coles edition has the only known photograph of Erdnase - right there on the cover
by Roger M.
April 14th, 2017, 11:45 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Card-Shark Warehouse Fire
Replies: 31
Views: 4324

Re: Card-Shark Warehouse Fire

OK, let me get this equivocation correct. Christian released a CARD TRICK that was missing some possible, or definitive crediting that some here feel needed to be there ... or perhaps Cardshark needed to withdraw the trick from the market ... but he didn't And for that, the release of an uncredited,...
by Roger M.
April 10th, 2017, 12:06 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Card-Shark Warehouse Fire
Replies: 31
Views: 4324

Re: Card-Shark Warehouse Fire

Brad Henderson wrote:karma is a bitch.


I'm not following this, and it seems somewhat of a harsh comment?

Have I missed something?
by Roger M.
April 6th, 2017, 10:07 am
Forum: General
Topic: Published Gambling moves Vs Magicians Sleights
Replies: 97
Views: 8930

Re: Published Gambling moves Vs Magicians Sleights

As you also mention if Roger can indeed do table faro's and never miss then he is one hell of a card worker ..... I didn't, and would never say any such thing. Actually, you said exactly that. "I can hit a table faro, or an in the hands faro 100% of the time." -RogerM Or is this the part ...

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